{"generator":"StatusNet 1.0.1","title":"Conversation","count":18,"totalItems":18,"items":[{"actor":{"displayName":"RDN's Lucifer","id":"http:\/\/rainbowdash.net\/user\/4320","avatarLinks":[{"url":"http:\/\/av.rdn.io\/avatar\/4320-259-20180525131708.jpeg","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/jpeg","width":"259","height":"259"},{"url":"http:\/\/av.rdn.io\/avatar\/4320-96-20180525131708.jpeg","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/jpeg","width":"96","height":"96"},{"url":"http:\/\/av.rdn.io\/avatar\/4320-48-20180525131708.jpeg","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/jpeg","width":"48","height":"48"},{"url":"http:\/\/av.rdn.io\/avatar\/4320-24-20180525131708.jpeg","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/jpeg","width":"24","height":"24"}],"image":{"url":"http:\/\/av.rdn.io\/avatar\/4320-96-20180525131708.jpeg","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/jpeg","width":"96","height":"96"},"type":"person","url":"http:\/\/rainbowdash.net\/user\/4320","statusnet:profile_info":{"local_id":"4320"},"contact":{"preferredUsername":"nerthos","displayName":"RDN's Lucifer","note":"For the cat is cryptic, and close to strange things which men cannot see. He is the soul of antique Aegyptus, and bearer of tales from forgotten cities in Meroe and Ophir. He is the kin of the jungle\u2019s lords, and heir to the secrets of hoary and sinister Africa. The Sphinx is his cousin, and he speaks her language; but he is more ancient than the Sphinx, and remembers that which she hath forgotten.\r\n\r\nFederation is getting worse by the minute so contact info\r\nSteam: sirnerthos\r\nSkype: nerthos.osea.yo\r\nnerthosnyaa@gmail.com","addresses":{"formatted":"Sea Hitler's water apocalypse"}}},"content":"@maiyannah<\/span><\/a><\/span> Thank you, I try.","body":"@maiyannah<\/span><\/a><\/span> Thank you, I try.","id":"http:\/\/rainbowdash.net\/notice\/4524144","object":{"displayName":"@maiyannah Thank you, I try.","id":"http:\/\/rainbowdash.net\/notice\/4524144","type":"comment","url":"http:\/\/rainbowdash.net\/notice\/4524144"},"to":[{"objectType":"person","id":"https:\/\/community.highlandarrow.com\/user\/1","url":"https:\/\/community.highlandarrow.com\/user\/1"}],"context":{"inReplyTo":{"objectType":"note","id":"tag:community.highlandarrow.com,2016-12-31:noticeId=513057:objectType=comment","url":"https:\/\/community.highlandarrow.com\/notice\/513057"},"conversation":"http:\/\/rainbowdash.net\/conversation\/3778879"},"published":"2016-12-31T11:23:12+00:00","postedTime":"2016-12-31T11:23:12+00:00","provider":{"objectType":"service","displayName":"Rainbow Dash Network","url":"http:\/\/rainbowdash.net\/"},"title":"@maiyannah Thank you, I try.","verb":"post","url":"http:\/\/rainbowdash.net\/notice\/4524144","tags":[""],"statusnet:notice_info":{"local_id":"4524144","source":"web"}},{"actor":{"displayName":"verius","id":"https:\/\/community.highlandarrow.com\/user\/500","avatarLinks":[{"url":"http:\/\/av.rdn.io\/avatar\/39457-original-20181017075403.png","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/png","width":"96","height":"96"},{"url":"http:\/\/av.rdn.io\/avatar\/39457-original-20181017075403.png","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/png","width":"96","height":"96"},{"url":"http:\/\/av.rdn.io\/avatar\/39457-48-20181017075403.png","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/png","width":"48","height":"48"},{"url":"http:\/\/av.rdn.io\/avatar\/39457-24-20181017075403.png","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/png","width":"24","height":"24"}],"image":{"url":"http:\/\/av.rdn.io\/avatar\/39457-original-20181017075403.png","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/png","width":"96","height":"96"},"type":"person","url":"https:\/\/community.highlandarrow.com\/user\/500","statusnet:profile_info":{"local_id":"39457"},"contact":{"preferredUsername":"verius","displayName":"verius","note":"nil"}},"content":"@maiyannah<\/a> @nerthos<\/a> I think it's the culture over in the valley and in GH specifically. It always feels a bit Peter Pan-y: don't grow up.

While I'm not a Gitlab fanboy they do tend to handle PR stuff better by having their executives being on top of that. It's PR of course but it does work. Github on the other hand comes across as arrogant.

Being powerful can offset the negative effects of being arrogant for some time, but eventually you'll run into a newcomer who will use it against you to great effect.\u00a02016 has plenty of examples of that.","body":"@maiyannah<\/a> @nerthos<\/a> I think it's the culture over in the valley and in GH specifically. It always feels a bit Peter Pan-y: don't grow up.

While I'm not a Gitlab fanboy they do tend to handle PR stuff better by having their executives being on top of that. It's PR of course but it does work. Github on the other hand comes across as arrogant.

Being powerful can offset the negative effects of being arrogant for some time, but eventually you'll run into a newcomer who will use it against you to great effect.\u00a02016 has plenty of examples of that.","id":"tag:community.highlandarrow.com,2016-12-31:noticeId=513058:objectType=comment","object":{"displayName":"@maiyannah @nerthos I think it's the culture over in the valley and in GH specifically. It always feels a bit Peter Pan-y: don't grow up. While I'm not a Gitlab fanboy they do tend to handle PR stuff better by having their executives being on top of that. It's PR of course but it does work. Github on the other hand comes across as arrogant. Being powerful can offset the negative effects of being arrogant for some time, but eventually you'll run into a newcomer who will use it against you to great effect.\u00a02016 has plenty of examples of that.","id":"tag:community.highlandarrow.com,2016-12-31:noticeId=513058:objectType=comment","type":"comment","url":"tag:community.highlandarrow.com,2016-12-31:noticeId=513058:objectType=comment"},"to":[{"objectType":"person","id":"http:\/\/rainbowdash.net\/user\/4320","url":"http:\/\/rainbowdash.net\/user\/4320"},{"objectType":"person","id":"https:\/\/community.highlandarrow.com\/user\/1","url":"https:\/\/community.highlandarrow.com\/user\/1"}],"context":{"inReplyTo":{"objectType":"note","id":"tag:community.highlandarrow.com,2016-12-31:noticeId=513051:objectType=comment","url":"https:\/\/community.highlandarrow.com\/notice\/513051"},"conversation":"http:\/\/rainbowdash.net\/conversation\/3778879"},"published":"2016-12-31T11:22:45+00:00","postedTime":"2016-12-31T11:22:45+00:00","provider":{"objectType":"service","displayName":"Rainbow Dash Network","url":"http:\/\/rainbowdash.net\/"},"title":"@maiyannah @nerthos I think it's the culture over in the valley and in GH specifically. It always feels a bit Peter Pan-y: don't grow up. While I'm not a Gitlab fanboy they do tend to handle PR stuff better by having their executives being on top of that. It's PR of course but it does work. Github on the other hand comes across as arrogant. Being powerful can offset the negative effects of being arrogant for some time, but eventually you'll run into a newcomer who will use it against you to great effect.\u00a02016 has plenty of examples of that.","verb":"post","url":"tag:community.highlandarrow.com,2016-12-31:noticeId=513058:objectType=comment","statusnet:notice_info":{"local_id":"4524143","source":"ostatus"}},{"actor":{"displayName":"maiyannah","id":"https:\/\/community.highlandarrow.com\/user\/1","avatarLinks":[{"url":"http:\/\/av.rdn.io\/avatar\/39147-original-20190514225236.jpeg","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/jpeg","width":"96","height":"96"},{"url":"http:\/\/av.rdn.io\/avatar\/39147-original-20190514225236.jpeg","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/jpeg","width":"96","height":"96"},{"url":"http:\/\/av.rdn.io\/avatar\/39147-48-20190514225236.jpeg","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/jpeg","width":"48","height":"48"},{"url":"http:\/\/av.rdn.io\/avatar\/39147-24-20190514225236.jpeg","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/jpeg","width":"24","height":"24"}],"image":{"url":"http:\/\/av.rdn.io\/avatar\/39147-original-20190514225236.jpeg","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/jpeg","width":"96","height":"96"},"type":"person","url":"https:\/\/community.highlandarrow.com\/user\/1","statusnet:profile_info":{"local_id":"39147"},"contact":{"preferredUsername":"maiyannah","displayName":"maiyannah","note":"Maiyannah Elizabeth Bishop \u2022 You dont know me and I don't know you. It's better that way \u2022 Email: maiyannah@highlandarrow.com \u2022 XMPP: maiyannah@xmpp.highlandarrow.com \u2022 Highland Arrow EIC \u2022 Highland Blade in Champions Online, Creidne in World of Warcraft, Havamal in Imperian, Evalyne in Aetolia","addresses":{"formatted":"Canada"},"urls":[{"type":"homepage","value":"http:\/\/www.highlandarrow.com","primary":"true"}]}},"content":"@nerthos<\/a> Wow. \u00a0I don't disagree, but that's a burn and a half.","body":"@nerthos<\/a> Wow. \u00a0I don't disagree, but that's a burn and a half.","id":"tag:community.highlandarrow.com,2016-12-31:noticeId=513057:objectType=comment","object":{"displayName":"@nerthos Wow. \u00a0I don't disagree, but that's a burn and a half.","id":"tag:community.highlandarrow.com,2016-12-31:noticeId=513057:objectType=comment","type":"comment","url":"tag:community.highlandarrow.com,2016-12-31:noticeId=513057:objectType=comment"},"to":[{"objectType":"person","id":"http:\/\/rainbowdash.net\/user\/4320","url":"http:\/\/rainbowdash.net\/user\/4320"}],"context":{"inReplyTo":{"objectType":"note","id":"http:\/\/rainbowdash.net\/notice\/4524141","url":"http:\/\/rainbowdash.net\/notice\/4524141"},"conversation":"http:\/\/rainbowdash.net\/conversation\/3778879"},"published":"2016-12-31T11:22:34+00:00","postedTime":"2016-12-31T11:22:34+00:00","provider":{"objectType":"service","displayName":"Rainbow Dash Network","url":"http:\/\/rainbowdash.net\/"},"title":"@nerthos Wow. \u00a0I don't disagree, but that's a burn and a half.","verb":"post","url":"tag:community.highlandarrow.com,2016-12-31:noticeId=513057:objectType=comment","tags":[""],"statusnet:notice_info":{"local_id":"4524142","source":"ostatus"}},{"actor":{"displayName":"RDN's Lucifer","id":"http:\/\/rainbowdash.net\/user\/4320","avatarLinks":[{"url":"http:\/\/av.rdn.io\/avatar\/4320-259-20180525131708.jpeg","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/jpeg","width":"259","height":"259"},{"url":"http:\/\/av.rdn.io\/avatar\/4320-96-20180525131708.jpeg","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/jpeg","width":"96","height":"96"},{"url":"http:\/\/av.rdn.io\/avatar\/4320-48-20180525131708.jpeg","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/jpeg","width":"48","height":"48"},{"url":"http:\/\/av.rdn.io\/avatar\/4320-24-20180525131708.jpeg","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/jpeg","width":"24","height":"24"}],"image":{"url":"http:\/\/av.rdn.io\/avatar\/4320-96-20180525131708.jpeg","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/jpeg","width":"96","height":"96"},"type":"person","url":"http:\/\/rainbowdash.net\/user\/4320","statusnet:profile_info":{"local_id":"4320"},"contact":{"preferredUsername":"nerthos","displayName":"RDN's Lucifer","note":"For the cat is cryptic, and close to strange things which men cannot see. 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\u00a0And to be fair, some inexperience and mistakes are a natural part of making a company. \u00a0You're going to have some mishaps, do some things you shouldn't, and make some mistakes that anger people. \u00a0If they're a mature company, as you suggest, they will have learned from that, and taken the steps to go through these policies and potential problems they could have, and developed strategies for them. \u00a0They self-evidently have not. \u00a0They're still acting like novices.","id":"tag:community.highlandarrow.com,2016-12-31:noticeId=513051:objectType=comment","object":{"displayName":"@verius @nerthos Well, they still act like one, don't they? \u00a0And to be fair, some inexperience and mistakes are a natural part of making a company. \u00a0You're going to have some mishaps, do some things you shouldn't, and make some mistakes that anger people. \u00a0If they're a mature company, as you suggest, they will have learned from that, and taken the steps to go through these policies and potential problems they could have, and developed strategies for them. \u00a0They self-evidently have not. \u00a0They're still acting like novices.","id":"tag:community.highlandarrow.com,2016-12-31:noticeId=513051:objectType=comment","type":"comment","url":"tag:community.highlandarrow.com,2016-12-31:noticeId=513051:objectType=comment"},"to":[{"objectType":"person","id":"http:\/\/rainbowdash.net\/user\/4320","url":"http:\/\/rainbowdash.net\/user\/4320"},{"objectType":"person","id":"https:\/\/community.highlandarrow.com\/user\/500","url":"https:\/\/community.highlandarrow.com\/user\/500"}],"context":{"inReplyTo":{"objectType":"note","id":"tag:community.highlandarrow.com,2016-12-31:noticeId=513048:objectType=comment","url":"https:\/\/community.highlandarrow.com\/notice\/513048"},"conversation":"http:\/\/rainbowdash.net\/conversation\/3778879"},"published":"2016-12-31T11:17:19+00:00","postedTime":"2016-12-31T11:17:19+00:00","provider":{"objectType":"service","displayName":"Rainbow Dash Network","url":"http:\/\/rainbowdash.net\/"},"title":"@verius @nerthos Well, they still act like one, don't they? \u00a0And to be fair, some inexperience and mistakes are a natural part of making a company. \u00a0You're going to have some mishaps, do some things you shouldn't, and make some mistakes that anger people. \u00a0If they're a mature company, as you suggest, they will have learned from that, and taken the steps to go through these policies and potential problems they could have, and developed strategies for them. \u00a0They self-evidently have not. \u00a0They're still acting like novices.","verb":"post","url":"tag:community.highlandarrow.com,2016-12-31:noticeId=513051:objectType=comment","statusnet:notice_info":{"local_id":"4524138","source":"ostatus"}},{"actor":{"displayName":"verius","id":"https:\/\/community.highlandarrow.com\/user\/500","avatarLinks":[{"url":"http:\/\/av.rdn.io\/avatar\/39457-original-20181017075403.png","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/png","width":"96","height":"96"},{"url":"http:\/\/av.rdn.io\/avatar\/39457-original-20181017075403.png","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/png","width":"96","height":"96"},{"url":"http:\/\/av.rdn.io\/avatar\/39457-48-20181017075403.png","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/png","width":"48","height":"48"},{"url":"http:\/\/av.rdn.io\/avatar\/39457-24-20181017075403.png","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/png","width":"24","height":"24"}],"image":{"url":"http:\/\/av.rdn.io\/avatar\/39457-original-20181017075403.png","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/png","width":"96","height":"96"},"type":"person","url":"https:\/\/community.highlandarrow.com\/user\/500","statusnet:profile_info":{"local_id":"39457"},"contact":{"preferredUsername":"verius","displayName":"verius","note":"nil"}},"content":"@maiyannah<\/a> @nerthos<\/a> You'd hope that after all those years they're not a startup anymore.","body":"@maiyannah<\/a> @nerthos<\/a> You'd hope that after all those years they're not a startup anymore.","id":"tag:community.highlandarrow.com,2016-12-31:noticeId=513048:objectType=comment","object":{"displayName":"@maiyannah @nerthos You'd hope that after all those years they're not a startup anymore.","id":"tag:community.highlandarrow.com,2016-12-31:noticeId=513048:objectType=comment","type":"comment","url":"tag:community.highlandarrow.com,2016-12-31:noticeId=513048:objectType=comment"},"context":{"inReplyTo":{"objectType":"note","id":"tag:community.highlandarrow.com,2016-12-31:noticeId=513042:objectType=comment","url":"https:\/\/community.highlandarrow.com\/notice\/513042"},"conversation":"http:\/\/rainbowdash.net\/conversation\/3778879"},"published":"2016-12-31T11:15:43+00:00","postedTime":"2016-12-31T11:15:43+00:00","provider":{"objectType":"service","displayName":"Rainbow Dash Network","url":"http:\/\/rainbowdash.net\/"},"title":"@maiyannah @nerthos You'd hope that after all those years they're not a startup anymore.","verb":"post","url":"tag:community.highlandarrow.com,2016-12-31:noticeId=513048:objectType=comment","tags":[""],"statusnet:notice_info":{"local_id":"4524136","source":"ostatus"}},{"actor":{"displayName":"maiyannah","id":"https:\/\/community.highlandarrow.com\/user\/1","avatarLinks":[{"url":"http:\/\/av.rdn.io\/avatar\/39147-original-20190514225236.jpeg","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/jpeg","width":"96","height":"96"},{"url":"http:\/\/av.rdn.io\/avatar\/39147-original-20190514225236.jpeg","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/jpeg","width":"96","height":"96"},{"url":"http:\/\/av.rdn.io\/avatar\/39147-48-20190514225236.jpeg","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/jpeg","width":"48","height":"48"},{"url":"http:\/\/av.rdn.io\/avatar\/39147-24-20190514225236.jpeg","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/jpeg","width":"24","height":"24"}],"image":{"url":"http:\/\/av.rdn.io\/avatar\/39147-original-20190514225236.jpeg","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/jpeg","width":"96","height":"96"},"type":"person","url":"https:\/\/community.highlandarrow.com\/user\/1","statusnet:profile_info":{"local_id":"39147"},"contact":{"preferredUsername":"maiyannah","displayName":"maiyannah","note":"Maiyannah Elizabeth Bishop \u2022 You dont know me and I don't know you. It's better that way \u2022 Email: maiyannah@highlandarrow.com \u2022 XMPP: maiyannah@xmpp.highlandarrow.com \u2022 Highland Arrow EIC \u2022 Highland Blade in Champions Online, Creidne in World of Warcraft, Havamal in Imperian, Evalyne in Aetolia","addresses":{"formatted":"Canada"},"urls":[{"type":"homepage","value":"http:\/\/www.highlandarrow.com","primary":"true"}]}},"content":"@verius<\/a> @nerthos<\/a> Especially when it comes to moralizing with these "inclusive" and "progressive" companies, there is zero degree of latitude. \u00a0They are, after all, authoritarians. \u00a0Any deviance is punished, usually without even warning (as we see here) and with impunity.","body":"@verius<\/a> @nerthos<\/a> Especially when it comes to moralizing with these "inclusive" and "progressive" companies, there is zero degree of latitude. \u00a0They are, after all, authoritarians. \u00a0Any deviance is punished, usually without even warning (as we see here) and with impunity.","id":"tag:community.highlandarrow.com,2016-12-31:noticeId=513047:objectType=comment","object":{"displayName":"@verius @nerthos Especially when it comes to moralizing with these \"inclusive\" and \"progressive\" companies, there is zero degree of latitude. \u00a0They are, after all, authoritarians. \u00a0Any deviance is punished, usually without even warning (as we see here) and with impunity.","id":"tag:community.highlandarrow.com,2016-12-31:noticeId=513047:objectType=comment","type":"comment","url":"tag:community.highlandarrow.com,2016-12-31:noticeId=513047:objectType=comment"},"to":[{"objectType":"person","id":"http:\/\/rainbowdash.net\/user\/4320","url":"http:\/\/rainbowdash.net\/user\/4320"},{"objectType":"person","id":"https:\/\/community.highlandarrow.com\/user\/1","url":"https:\/\/community.highlandarrow.com\/user\/1"},{"objectType":"person","id":"https:\/\/community.highlandarrow.com\/user\/500","url":"https:\/\/community.highlandarrow.com\/user\/500"}],"context":{"inReplyTo":{"objectType":"note","id":"tag:community.highlandarrow.com,2016-12-31:noticeId=513042:objectType=comment","url":"https:\/\/community.highlandarrow.com\/notice\/513042"},"conversation":"http:\/\/rainbowdash.net\/conversation\/3778879"},"published":"2016-12-31T11:14:41+00:00","postedTime":"2016-12-31T11:14:41+00:00","provider":{"objectType":"service","displayName":"Rainbow Dash Network","url":"http:\/\/rainbowdash.net\/"},"title":"@verius @nerthos Especially when it comes to moralizing with these \"inclusive\" and \"progressive\" companies, there is zero degree of latitude. \u00a0They are, after all, authoritarians. \u00a0Any deviance is punished, usually without even warning (as we see here) and with impunity.","verb":"post","url":"tag:community.highlandarrow.com,2016-12-31:noticeId=513047:objectType=comment","statusnet:notice_info":{"local_id":"4524134","source":"ostatus"}},{"actor":{"displayName":"maiyannah","id":"https:\/\/community.highlandarrow.com\/user\/1","avatarLinks":[{"url":"http:\/\/av.rdn.io\/avatar\/39147-original-20190514225236.jpeg","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/jpeg","width":"96","height":"96"},{"url":"http:\/\/av.rdn.io\/avatar\/39147-original-20190514225236.jpeg","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/jpeg","width":"96","height":"96"},{"url":"http:\/\/av.rdn.io\/avatar\/39147-48-20190514225236.jpeg","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/jpeg","width":"48","height":"48"},{"url":"http:\/\/av.rdn.io\/avatar\/39147-24-20190514225236.jpeg","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/jpeg","width":"24","height":"24"}],"image":{"url":"http:\/\/av.rdn.io\/avatar\/39147-original-20190514225236.jpeg","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/jpeg","width":"96","height":"96"},"type":"person","url":"https:\/\/community.highlandarrow.com\/user\/1","statusnet:profile_info":{"local_id":"39147"},"contact":{"preferredUsername":"maiyannah","displayName":"maiyannah","note":"Maiyannah Elizabeth Bishop \u2022 You dont know me and I don't know you. It's better that way \u2022 Email: maiyannah@highlandarrow.com \u2022 XMPP: maiyannah@xmpp.highlandarrow.com \u2022 Highland Arrow EIC \u2022 Highland Blade in Champions Online, Creidne in World of Warcraft, Havamal in Imperian, Evalyne in Aetolia","addresses":{"formatted":"Canada"},"urls":[{"type":"homepage","value":"http:\/\/www.highlandarrow.com","primary":"true"}]}},"content":"@verius<\/a> @nerthos<\/a> Most of these start-ups do not take matters like these seriously in a way that's fair to anyone but themselves, no.","body":"@verius<\/a> @nerthos<\/a> Most of these start-ups do not take matters like these seriously in a way that's fair to anyone but themselves, no.","id":"tag:community.highlandarrow.com,2016-12-31:noticeId=513042:objectType=comment","object":{"displayName":"@verius @nerthos Most of these start-ups do not take matters like these seriously in a way that's fair to anyone but themselves, no.","id":"tag:community.highlandarrow.com,2016-12-31:noticeId=513042:objectType=comment","type":"comment","url":"tag:community.highlandarrow.com,2016-12-31:noticeId=513042:objectType=comment"},"to":[{"objectType":"person","id":"http:\/\/rainbowdash.net\/user\/4320","url":"http:\/\/rainbowdash.net\/user\/4320"},{"objectType":"person","id":"https:\/\/community.highlandarrow.com\/user\/500","url":"https:\/\/community.highlandarrow.com\/user\/500"}],"context":{"inReplyTo":{"objectType":"note","id":"tag:community.highlandarrow.com,2016-12-31:noticeId=513034:objectType=comment","url":"https:\/\/community.highlandarrow.com\/notice\/513034"},"conversation":"http:\/\/rainbowdash.net\/conversation\/3778879"},"published":"2016-12-31T11:11:19+00:00","postedTime":"2016-12-31T11:11:19+00:00","provider":{"objectType":"service","displayName":"Rainbow Dash Network","url":"http:\/\/rainbowdash.net\/"},"title":"@verius @nerthos Most of these start-ups do not take matters like these seriously in a way that's fair to anyone but themselves, no.","verb":"post","url":"tag:community.highlandarrow.com,2016-12-31:noticeId=513042:objectType=comment","statusnet:notice_info":{"local_id":"4524131","source":"ostatus"}},{"actor":{"displayName":"verius","id":"https:\/\/community.highlandarrow.com\/user\/500","avatarLinks":[{"url":"http:\/\/av.rdn.io\/avatar\/39457-original-20181017075403.png","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/png","width":"96","height":"96"},{"url":"http:\/\/av.rdn.io\/avatar\/39457-original-20181017075403.png","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/png","width":"96","height":"96"},{"url":"http:\/\/av.rdn.io\/avatar\/39457-48-20181017075403.png","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/png","width":"48","height":"48"},{"url":"http:\/\/av.rdn.io\/avatar\/39457-24-20181017075403.png","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/png","width":"24","height":"24"}],"image":{"url":"http:\/\/av.rdn.io\/avatar\/39457-original-20181017075403.png","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/png","width":"96","height":"96"},"type":"person","url":"https:\/\/community.highlandarrow.com\/user\/500","statusnet:profile_info":{"local_id":"39457"},"contact":{"preferredUsername":"verius","displayName":"verius","note":"nil"}},"content":"@nerthos<\/a> @maiyannah<\/a> The thing with an "whatever, whenever" clause in a ToS is that it gives a degree of protection against legal attacks. A wise company realizes that it does help with PR fallout.

A wise and mature company also has procedures in place, vetted by legal and PR, to prevent situations like this.

Stuff like this tells me Github is not a mature company.","body":"@nerthos<\/a> @maiyannah<\/a> The thing with an "whatever, whenever" clause in a ToS is that it gives a degree of protection against legal attacks. A wise company realizes that it does help with PR fallout.

A wise and mature company also has procedures in place, vetted by legal and PR, to prevent situations like this.

Stuff like this tells me Github is not a mature company.","id":"tag:community.highlandarrow.com,2016-12-31:noticeId=513034:objectType=comment","object":{"displayName":"@nerthos @maiyannah The thing with an \"whatever, whenever\" clause in a ToS is that it gives a degree of protection against legal attacks. A wise company realizes that it does help with PR fallout. A wise and mature company also has procedures in place, vetted by legal and PR, to prevent situations like this. Stuff like this tells me Github is not a mature company.","id":"tag:community.highlandarrow.com,2016-12-31:noticeId=513034:objectType=comment","type":"comment","url":"tag:community.highlandarrow.com,2016-12-31:noticeId=513034:objectType=comment"},"to":[{"objectType":"person","id":"http:\/\/rainbowdash.net\/user\/4320","url":"http:\/\/rainbowdash.net\/user\/4320"},{"objectType":"person","id":"https:\/\/community.highlandarrow.com\/user\/1","url":"https:\/\/community.highlandarrow.com\/user\/1"}],"context":{"inReplyTo":{"objectType":"note","id":"http:\/\/rainbowdash.net\/notice\/4524115","url":"http:\/\/rainbowdash.net\/notice\/4524115"},"conversation":"http:\/\/rainbowdash.net\/conversation\/3778879"},"published":"2016-12-31T11:09:51+00:00","postedTime":"2016-12-31T11:09:51+00:00","provider":{"objectType":"service","displayName":"Rainbow Dash Network","url":"http:\/\/rainbowdash.net\/"},"title":"@nerthos @maiyannah The thing with an \"whatever, whenever\" clause in a ToS is that it gives a degree of protection against legal attacks. A wise company realizes that it does help with PR fallout. A wise and mature company also has procedures in place, vetted by legal and PR, to prevent situations like this. Stuff like this tells me Github is not a mature company.","verb":"post","url":"tag:community.highlandarrow.com,2016-12-31:noticeId=513034:objectType=comment","statusnet:notice_info":{"local_id":"4524127","source":"ostatus"}},{"actor":{"displayName":"maiyannah","id":"https:\/\/community.highlandarrow.com\/user\/1","avatarLinks":[{"url":"http:\/\/av.rdn.io\/avatar\/39147-original-20190514225236.jpeg","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/jpeg","width":"96","height":"96"},{"url":"http:\/\/av.rdn.io\/avatar\/39147-original-20190514225236.jpeg","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/jpeg","width":"96","height":"96"},{"url":"http:\/\/av.rdn.io\/avatar\/39147-48-20190514225236.jpeg","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/jpeg","width":"48","height":"48"},{"url":"http:\/\/av.rdn.io\/avatar\/39147-24-20190514225236.jpeg","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/jpeg","width":"24","height":"24"}],"image":{"url":"http:\/\/av.rdn.io\/avatar\/39147-original-20190514225236.jpeg","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/jpeg","width":"96","height":"96"},"type":"person","url":"https:\/\/community.highlandarrow.com\/user\/1","statusnet:profile_info":{"local_id":"39147"},"contact":{"preferredUsername":"maiyannah","displayName":"maiyannah","note":"Maiyannah Elizabeth Bishop \u2022 You dont know me and I don't know you. It's better that way \u2022 Email: maiyannah@highlandarrow.com \u2022 XMPP: maiyannah@xmpp.highlandarrow.com \u2022 Highland Arrow EIC \u2022 Highland Blade in Champions Online, Creidne in World of Warcraft, Havamal in Imperian, Evalyne in Aetolia","addresses":{"formatted":"Canada"},"urls":[{"type":"homepage","value":"http:\/\/www.highlandarrow.com","primary":"true"}]}},"content":"@verius<\/a> That was the official reason anyways. \u00a0The unofficial reason is the people running the project in question was influential in socjus circles at the time and made a big stink about opinions I expressed on Twitter (that weren't related at all to the project). \u00a0 I'd contributed to the project before then, but went to fork it when I had that falling out.

I don't want to go into too many details because I contributed using an alias I don't really need to link back to my actual identity and end up dealing with all the baggage all over again.","body":"@verius<\/a> That was the official reason anyways. \u00a0The unofficial reason is the people running the project in question was influential in socjus circles at the time and made a big stink about opinions I expressed on Twitter (that weren't related at all to the project). \u00a0 I'd contributed to the project before then, but went to fork it when I had that falling out.

I don't want to go into too many details because I contributed using an alias I don't really need to link back to my actual identity and end up dealing with all the baggage all over again.","id":"tag:community.highlandarrow.com,2016-12-31:noticeId=513033:objectType=comment","object":{"displayName":"@verius That was the official reason anyways. \u00a0The unofficial reason is the people running the project in question was influential in socjus circles at the time and made a big stink about opinions I expressed on Twitter (that weren't related at all to the project). \u00a0 I'd contributed to the project before then, but went to fork it when I had that falling out. I don't want to go into too many details because I contributed using an alias I don't really need to link back to my actual identity and end up dealing with all the baggage all over again.","id":"tag:community.highlandarrow.com,2016-12-31:noticeId=513033:objectType=comment","type":"comment","url":"tag:community.highlandarrow.com,2016-12-31:noticeId=513033:objectType=comment"},"to":[{"objectType":"person","id":"https:\/\/community.highlandarrow.com\/user\/500","url":"https:\/\/community.highlandarrow.com\/user\/500"}],"context":{"inReplyTo":{"objectType":"note","id":"tag:community.highlandarrow.com,2016-12-31:noticeId=513022:objectType=comment","url":"https:\/\/community.highlandarrow.com\/notice\/513022"},"conversation":"http:\/\/rainbowdash.net\/conversation\/3778879"},"published":"2016-12-31T11:09:44+00:00","postedTime":"2016-12-31T11:09:44+00:00","provider":{"objectType":"service","displayName":"Rainbow Dash Network","url":"http:\/\/rainbowdash.net\/"},"title":"@verius That was the official reason anyways. \u00a0The unofficial reason is the people running the project in question was influential in socjus circles at the time and made a big stink about opinions I expressed on Twitter (that weren't related at all to the project). \u00a0 I'd contributed to the project before then, but went to fork it when I had that falling out. I don't want to go into too many details because I contributed using an alias I don't really need to link back to my actual identity and end up dealing with all the baggage all over again.","verb":"post","url":"tag:community.highlandarrow.com,2016-12-31:noticeId=513033:objectType=comment","statusnet:notice_info":{"local_id":"4524126","source":"ostatus"}},{"actor":{"displayName":"verius","id":"https:\/\/community.highlandarrow.com\/user\/500","avatarLinks":[{"url":"http:\/\/av.rdn.io\/avatar\/39457-original-20181017075403.png","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/png","width":"96","height":"96"},{"url":"http:\/\/av.rdn.io\/avatar\/39457-original-20181017075403.png","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/png","width":"96","height":"96"},{"url":"http:\/\/av.rdn.io\/avatar\/39457-48-20181017075403.png","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/png","width":"48","height":"48"},{"url":"http:\/\/av.rdn.io\/avatar\/39457-24-20181017075403.png","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/png","width":"24","height":"24"}],"image":{"url":"http:\/\/av.rdn.io\/avatar\/39457-original-20181017075403.png","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/png","width":"96","height":"96"},"type":"person","url":"https:\/\/community.highlandarrow.com\/user\/500","statusnet:profile_info":{"local_id":"39457"},"contact":{"preferredUsername":"verius","displayName":"verius","note":"nil"}},"content":"@maiyannah<\/a> Well, to be fair, I don't trust any infrastructure provider fully. In my experience any service you don't fully control yourself is going to bite you sooner or later. The ones you do fully control also do, but at least you can try to fix it yourself.","body":"@maiyannah<\/a> Well, to be fair, I don't trust any infrastructure provider fully. In my experience any service you don't fully control yourself is going to bite you sooner or later. The ones you do fully control also do, but at least you can try to fix it yourself.","id":"tag:community.highlandarrow.com,2016-12-31:noticeId=513026:objectType=comment","object":{"displayName":"@maiyannah Well, to be fair, I don't trust any infrastructure provider fully. In my experience any service you don't fully control yourself is going to bite you sooner or later. The ones you do fully control also do, but at least you can try to fix it yourself.","id":"tag:community.highlandarrow.com,2016-12-31:noticeId=513026:objectType=comment","type":"comment","url":"tag:community.highlandarrow.com,2016-12-31:noticeId=513026:objectType=comment"},"to":[{"objectType":"person","id":"https:\/\/community.highlandarrow.com\/user\/1","url":"https:\/\/community.highlandarrow.com\/user\/1"}],"context":{"inReplyTo":{"objectType":"note","id":"tag:community.highlandarrow.com,2016-12-31:noticeId=513021:objectType=comment","url":"https:\/\/community.highlandarrow.com\/notice\/513021"},"conversation":"http:\/\/rainbowdash.net\/conversation\/3778879"},"published":"2016-12-31T11:04:51+00:00","postedTime":"2016-12-31T11:04:51+00:00","provider":{"objectType":"service","displayName":"Rainbow Dash Network","url":"http:\/\/rainbowdash.net\/"},"title":"@maiyannah Well, to be fair, I don't trust any infrastructure provider fully. In my experience any service you don't fully control yourself is going to bite you sooner or later. The ones you do fully control also do, but at least you can try to fix it yourself.","verb":"post","url":"tag:community.highlandarrow.com,2016-12-31:noticeId=513026:objectType=comment","statusnet:notice_info":{"local_id":"4524117","source":"ostatus"}},{"actor":{"displayName":"verius","id":"https:\/\/community.highlandarrow.com\/user\/500","avatarLinks":[{"url":"http:\/\/av.rdn.io\/avatar\/39457-original-20181017075403.png","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/png","width":"96","height":"96"},{"url":"http:\/\/av.rdn.io\/avatar\/39457-original-20181017075403.png","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/png","width":"96","height":"96"},{"url":"http:\/\/av.rdn.io\/avatar\/39457-48-20181017075403.png","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/png","width":"48","height":"48"},{"url":"http:\/\/av.rdn.io\/avatar\/39457-24-20181017075403.png","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/png","width":"24","height":"24"}],"image":{"url":"http:\/\/av.rdn.io\/avatar\/39457-original-20181017075403.png","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/png","width":"96","height":"96"},"type":"person","url":"https:\/\/community.highlandarrow.com\/user\/500","statusnet:profile_info":{"local_id":"39457"},"contact":{"preferredUsername":"verius","displayName":"verius","note":"nil"}},"content":"@maiyannah<\/a> WTF?! Forking without permission?","body":"@maiyannah<\/a> WTF?! Forking without permission?","id":"tag:community.highlandarrow.com,2016-12-31:noticeId=513022:objectType=comment","object":{"displayName":"@maiyannah WTF?! Forking without permission?","id":"tag:community.highlandarrow.com,2016-12-31:noticeId=513022:objectType=comment","type":"comment","url":"tag:community.highlandarrow.com,2016-12-31:noticeId=513022:objectType=comment"},"to":[{"objectType":"person","id":"https:\/\/community.highlandarrow.com\/user\/1","url":"https:\/\/community.highlandarrow.com\/user\/1"}],"context":{"inReplyTo":{"objectType":"note","id":"tag:community.highlandarrow.com,2016-12-31:noticeId=513013:objectType=comment","url":"https:\/\/community.highlandarrow.com\/notice\/513013"},"conversation":"http:\/\/rainbowdash.net\/conversation\/3778879"},"published":"2016-12-31T11:03:21+00:00","postedTime":"2016-12-31T11:03:21+00:00","provider":{"objectType":"service","displayName":"Rainbow Dash Network","url":"http:\/\/rainbowdash.net\/"},"title":"@maiyannah WTF?! Forking without permission?","verb":"post","url":"tag:community.highlandarrow.com,2016-12-31:noticeId=513022:objectType=comment","tags":[""],"statusnet:notice_info":{"local_id":"4524112","source":"ostatus"}},{"actor":{"displayName":"maiyannah","id":"https:\/\/community.highlandarrow.com\/user\/1","avatarLinks":[{"url":"http:\/\/av.rdn.io\/avatar\/39147-original-20190514225236.jpeg","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/jpeg","width":"96","height":"96"},{"url":"http:\/\/av.rdn.io\/avatar\/39147-original-20190514225236.jpeg","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/jpeg","width":"96","height":"96"},{"url":"http:\/\/av.rdn.io\/avatar\/39147-48-20190514225236.jpeg","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/jpeg","width":"48","height":"48"},{"url":"http:\/\/av.rdn.io\/avatar\/39147-24-20190514225236.jpeg","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/jpeg","width":"24","height":"24"}],"image":{"url":"http:\/\/av.rdn.io\/avatar\/39147-original-20190514225236.jpeg","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/jpeg","width":"96","height":"96"},"type":"person","url":"https:\/\/community.highlandarrow.com\/user\/1","statusnet:profile_info":{"local_id":"39147"},"contact":{"preferredUsername":"maiyannah","displayName":"maiyannah","note":"Maiyannah Elizabeth Bishop \u2022 You dont know me and I don't know you. It's better that way \u2022 Email: maiyannah@highlandarrow.com \u2022 XMPP: maiyannah@xmpp.highlandarrow.com \u2022 Highland Arrow EIC \u2022 Highland Blade in Champions Online, Creidne in World of Warcraft, Havamal in Imperian, Evalyne in Aetolia","addresses":{"formatted":"Canada"},"urls":[{"type":"homepage","value":"http:\/\/www.highlandarrow.com","primary":"true"}]}},"content":"@verius<\/a> It's exactly why I used git.gnu.io<\/a> and later now my own gitlab for postactiv and our own projects - I do not trust them as an infrastucture provider not to apple me, so I self-host, which honestly is probably ideal anyways.","body":"@verius<\/a> It's exactly why I used git.gnu.io<\/a> and later now my own gitlab for postactiv and our own projects - I do not trust them as an infrastucture provider not to apple me, so I self-host, which honestly is probably ideal anyways.","id":"tag:community.highlandarrow.com,2016-12-31:noticeId=513021:objectType=comment","object":{"displayName":"@verius It's exactly why I used git.gnu.io and later now my own gitlab for postactiv and our own projects - I do not trust them as an infrastucture provider not to cherry me, so I self-host, which honestly is probably ideal anyways.","id":"tag:community.highlandarrow.com,2016-12-31:noticeId=513021:objectType=comment","type":"comment","url":"tag:community.highlandarrow.com,2016-12-31:noticeId=513021:objectType=comment"},"to":[{"objectType":"person","id":"https:\/\/community.highlandarrow.com\/user\/500","url":"https:\/\/community.highlandarrow.com\/user\/500"}],"context":{"inReplyTo":{"objectType":"note","id":"tag:community.highlandarrow.com,2016-12-31:noticeId=513018:objectType=comment","url":"https:\/\/community.highlandarrow.com\/notice\/513018"},"conversation":"http:\/\/rainbowdash.net\/conversation\/3778879"},"published":"2016-12-31T11:03:13+00:00","postedTime":"2016-12-31T11:03:13+00:00","provider":{"objectType":"service","displayName":"Rainbow Dash Network","url":"http:\/\/rainbowdash.net\/"},"title":"@verius It's exactly why I used git.gnu.io and later now my own gitlab for postactiv and our own projects - I do not trust them as an infrastucture provider not to cherry me, so I self-host, which honestly is probably ideal anyways.","verb":"post","url":"tag:community.highlandarrow.com,2016-12-31:noticeId=513021:objectType=comment","statusnet:notice_info":{"local_id":"4524111","source":"ostatus"}},{"actor":{"displayName":"RDN's Lucifer","id":"http:\/\/rainbowdash.net\/user\/4320","avatarLinks":[{"url":"http:\/\/av.rdn.io\/avatar\/4320-259-20180525131708.jpeg","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/jpeg","width":"259","height":"259"},{"url":"http:\/\/av.rdn.io\/avatar\/4320-96-20180525131708.jpeg","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/jpeg","width":"96","height":"96"},{"url":"http:\/\/av.rdn.io\/avatar\/4320-48-20180525131708.jpeg","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/jpeg","width":"48","height":"48"},{"url":"http:\/\/av.rdn.io\/avatar\/4320-24-20180525131708.jpeg","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/jpeg","width":"24","height":"24"}],"image":{"url":"http:\/\/av.rdn.io\/avatar\/4320-96-20180525131708.jpeg","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/jpeg","width":"96","height":"96"},"type":"person","url":"http:\/\/rainbowdash.net\/user\/4320","statusnet:profile_info":{"local_id":"4320"},"contact":{"preferredUsername":"nerthos","displayName":"RDN's Lucifer","note":"For the cat is cryptic, and close to strange things which men cannot see. 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Without a legal risk for the hosting company over the content, not telling the uploader "you have x time to take this down because y" or "we preemptively blocked x from access because y goes against site policy" will only cause the hosting service to be seen as powertripping jerks regardless of whether the TOS allows such action.","body":"@maiyannah<\/span><\/a><\/span> @verius<\/span><\/a><\/span> As you both said, they're just shooting themselves. Without a legal risk for the hosting company over the content, not telling the uploader "you have x time to take this down because y" or "we preemptively blocked x from access because y goes against site policy" will only cause the hosting service to be seen as powertripping jerks regardless of whether the TOS allows such action.","id":"http:\/\/rainbowdash.net\/notice\/4524115","object":{"displayName":"@maiyannah @verius As you both said, they're just shooting themselves. Without a legal risk for the hosting company over the content, not telling the uploader \"you have x time to take this down because y\" or \"we preemptively blocked x from access because y goes against site policy\" will only cause the hosting service to be seen as powertripping jerks regardless of whether the TOS allows such action.","id":"http:\/\/rainbowdash.net\/notice\/4524115","type":"comment","url":"http:\/\/rainbowdash.net\/notice\/4524115"},"to":[{"objectType":"person","id":"https:\/\/community.highlandarrow.com\/user\/1","url":"https:\/\/community.highlandarrow.com\/user\/1"},{"objectType":"person","id":"https:\/\/community.highlandarrow.com\/user\/500","url":"https:\/\/community.highlandarrow.com\/user\/500"}],"context":{"inReplyTo":{"objectType":"note","id":"tag:community.highlandarrow.com,2016-12-31:noticeId=513007:objectType=comment","url":"https:\/\/community.highlandarrow.com\/notice\/513007"},"conversation":"http:\/\/rainbowdash.net\/conversation\/3778879"},"published":"2016-12-31T11:03:11+00:00","postedTime":"2016-12-31T11:03:11+00:00","provider":{"objectType":"service","displayName":"Rainbow Dash Network","url":"http:\/\/rainbowdash.net\/"},"title":"@maiyannah @verius As you both said, they're just shooting themselves. Without a legal risk for the hosting company over the content, not telling the uploader \"you have x time to take this down because y\" or \"we preemptively blocked x from access because y goes against site policy\" will only cause the hosting service to be seen as powertripping jerks regardless of whether the TOS allows such action.","verb":"post","url":"http:\/\/rainbowdash.net\/notice\/4524115","statusnet:notice_info":{"local_id":"4524115","source":"web"}},{"actor":{"displayName":"verius","id":"https:\/\/community.highlandarrow.com\/user\/500","avatarLinks":[{"url":"http:\/\/av.rdn.io\/avatar\/39457-original-20181017075403.png","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/png","width":"96","height":"96"},{"url":"http:\/\/av.rdn.io\/avatar\/39457-original-20181017075403.png","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/png","width":"96","height":"96"},{"url":"http:\/\/av.rdn.io\/avatar\/39457-48-20181017075403.png","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/png","width":"48","height":"48"},{"url":"http:\/\/av.rdn.io\/avatar\/39457-24-20181017075403.png","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/png","width":"24","height":"24"}],"image":{"url":"http:\/\/av.rdn.io\/avatar\/39457-original-20181017075403.png","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/png","width":"96","height":"96"},"type":"person","url":"https:\/\/community.highlandarrow.com\/user\/500","statusnet:profile_info":{"local_id":"39457"},"contact":{"preferredUsername":"verius","displayName":"verius","note":"nil"}},"content":"@maiyannah<\/a> Exactly. There was no rush, no threat to Github itself. Even a marginal threat of "some bad publicity because we allow ads" would have been diffused by Github commenting if asked that they've contacted the owner of the repos and are working with them to get things cleaned up.

If Github wants to market to companies they need to act reasonably. Companies do not like vital infrastructure providers acting without warning.","body":"@maiyannah<\/a> Exactly. There was no rush, no threat to Github itself. Even a marginal threat of "some bad publicity because we allow ads" would have been diffused by Github commenting if asked that they've contacted the owner of the repos and are working with them to get things cleaned up.

If Github wants to market to companies they need to act reasonably. Companies do not like vital infrastructure providers acting without warning.","id":"tag:community.highlandarrow.com,2016-12-31:noticeId=513018:objectType=comment","object":{"displayName":"@maiyannah Exactly. There was no rush, no threat to Github itself. Even a marginal threat of \"some bad publicity because we allow ads\" would have been diffused by Github commenting if asked that they've contacted the owner of the repos and are working with them to get things cleaned up. If Github wants to market to companies they need to act reasonably. Companies do not like vital infrastructure providers acting without warning.","id":"tag:community.highlandarrow.com,2016-12-31:noticeId=513018:objectType=comment","type":"comment","url":"tag:community.highlandarrow.com,2016-12-31:noticeId=513018:objectType=comment"},"to":[{"objectType":"person","id":"https:\/\/community.highlandarrow.com\/user\/1","url":"https:\/\/community.highlandarrow.com\/user\/1"}],"context":{"inReplyTo":{"objectType":"note","id":"tag:community.highlandarrow.com,2016-12-31:noticeId=513007:objectType=comment","url":"https:\/\/community.highlandarrow.com\/notice\/513007"},"conversation":"http:\/\/rainbowdash.net\/conversation\/3778879"},"published":"2016-12-31T11:01:45+00:00","postedTime":"2016-12-31T11:01:45+00:00","provider":{"objectType":"service","displayName":"Rainbow Dash Network","url":"http:\/\/rainbowdash.net\/"},"title":"@maiyannah Exactly. There was no rush, no threat to Github itself. Even a marginal threat of \"some bad publicity because we allow ads\" would have been diffused by Github commenting if asked that they've contacted the owner of the repos and are working with them to get things cleaned up. If Github wants to market to companies they need to act reasonably. Companies do not like vital infrastructure providers acting without warning.","verb":"post","url":"tag:community.highlandarrow.com,2016-12-31:noticeId=513018:objectType=comment","statusnet:notice_info":{"local_id":"4524109","source":"ostatus"}},{"actor":{"displayName":"maiyannah","id":"https:\/\/community.highlandarrow.com\/user\/1","avatarLinks":[{"url":"http:\/\/av.rdn.io\/avatar\/39147-original-20190514225236.jpeg","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/jpeg","width":"96","height":"96"},{"url":"http:\/\/av.rdn.io\/avatar\/39147-original-20190514225236.jpeg","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/jpeg","width":"96","height":"96"},{"url":"http:\/\/av.rdn.io\/avatar\/39147-48-20190514225236.jpeg","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/jpeg","width":"48","height":"48"},{"url":"http:\/\/av.rdn.io\/avatar\/39147-24-20190514225236.jpeg","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/jpeg","width":"24","height":"24"}],"image":{"url":"http:\/\/av.rdn.io\/avatar\/39147-original-20190514225236.jpeg","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/jpeg","width":"96","height":"96"},"type":"person","url":"https:\/\/community.highlandarrow.com\/user\/1","statusnet:profile_info":{"local_id":"39147"},"contact":{"preferredUsername":"maiyannah","displayName":"maiyannah","note":"Maiyannah Elizabeth Bishop \u2022 You dont know me and I don't know you. It's better that way \u2022 Email: maiyannah@highlandarrow.com \u2022 XMPP: maiyannah@xmpp.highlandarrow.com \u2022 Highland Arrow EIC \u2022 Highland Blade in Champions Online, Creidne in World of Warcraft, Havamal in Imperian, Evalyne in Aetolia","addresses":{"formatted":"Canada"},"urls":[{"type":"homepage","value":"http:\/\/www.highlandarrow.com","primary":"true"}]}},"content":"@verius<\/a> Personally, given my own experience with GitHub after I was banned for forking a project "without permission" (you don't need permission to fork a GPLv2 project, incidentally, and to impose such a restriction is in direct contravention of the license), I am hardly surprised to learn they deal with others in similarly heavy-handed measures.","body":"@verius<\/a> Personally, given my own experience with GitHub after I was banned for forking a project "without permission" (you don't need permission to fork a GPLv2 project, incidentally, and to impose such a restriction is in direct contravention of the license), I am hardly surprised to learn they deal with others in similarly heavy-handed measures.","id":"tag:community.highlandarrow.com,2016-12-31:noticeId=513013:objectType=comment","object":{"displayName":"@verius Personally, given my own experience with GitHub after I was banned for forking a project \"without permission\" (you don't need permission to fork a GPLv2 project, incidentally, and to impose such a restriction is in direct contravention of the license), I am hardly surprised to learn they deal with others in similarly heavy-handed measures.","id":"tag:community.highlandarrow.com,2016-12-31:noticeId=513013:objectType=comment","type":"comment","url":"tag:community.highlandarrow.com,2016-12-31:noticeId=513013:objectType=comment"},"to":[{"objectType":"person","id":"https:\/\/community.highlandarrow.com\/user\/1","url":"https:\/\/community.highlandarrow.com\/user\/1"},{"objectType":"person","id":"https:\/\/community.highlandarrow.com\/user\/500","url":"https:\/\/community.highlandarrow.com\/user\/500"}],"context":{"inReplyTo":{"objectType":"note","id":"tag:community.highlandarrow.com,2016-12-31:noticeId=513007:objectType=comment","url":"https:\/\/community.highlandarrow.com\/notice\/513007"},"conversation":"http:\/\/rainbowdash.net\/conversation\/3778879"},"published":"2016-12-31T10:58:29+00:00","postedTime":"2016-12-31T10:58:29+00:00","provider":{"objectType":"service","displayName":"Rainbow Dash Network","url":"http:\/\/rainbowdash.net\/"},"title":"@verius Personally, given my own experience with GitHub after I was banned for forking a project \"without permission\" (you don't need permission to fork a GPLv2 project, incidentally, and to impose such a restriction is in direct contravention of the license), I am hardly surprised to learn they deal with others in similarly heavy-handed measures.","verb":"post","url":"tag:community.highlandarrow.com,2016-12-31:noticeId=513013:objectType=comment","statusnet:notice_info":{"local_id":"4524105","source":"ostatus"}},{"actor":{"displayName":"maiyannah","id":"https:\/\/community.highlandarrow.com\/user\/1","avatarLinks":[{"url":"http:\/\/av.rdn.io\/avatar\/39147-original-20190514225236.jpeg","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/jpeg","width":"96","height":"96"},{"url":"http:\/\/av.rdn.io\/avatar\/39147-original-20190514225236.jpeg","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/jpeg","width":"96","height":"96"},{"url":"http:\/\/av.rdn.io\/avatar\/39147-48-20190514225236.jpeg","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/jpeg","width":"48","height":"48"},{"url":"http:\/\/av.rdn.io\/avatar\/39147-24-20190514225236.jpeg","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/jpeg","width":"24","height":"24"}],"image":{"url":"http:\/\/av.rdn.io\/avatar\/39147-original-20190514225236.jpeg","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/jpeg","width":"96","height":"96"},"type":"person","url":"https:\/\/community.highlandarrow.com\/user\/1","statusnet:profile_info":{"local_id":"39147"},"contact":{"preferredUsername":"maiyannah","displayName":"maiyannah","note":"Maiyannah Elizabeth Bishop \u2022 You dont know me and I don't know you. It's better that way \u2022 Email: maiyannah@highlandarrow.com \u2022 XMPP: maiyannah@xmpp.highlandarrow.com \u2022 Highland Arrow EIC \u2022 Highland Blade in Champions Online, Creidne in World of Warcraft, Havamal in Imperian, Evalyne in Aetolia","addresses":{"formatted":"Canada"},"urls":[{"type":"homepage","value":"http:\/\/www.highlandarrow.com","primary":"true"}]}},"content":"@verius<\/a> This is why most TOS have those blanket "we can do whatever for any reason" backup clauses, but really, it sets a bad precedent.

And I don't say that because of the ad thing. \u00a0I don't care about that actually, insofar as them hosting it. \u00a0I'd avoid a project that had such ads as a personal choice, but I don't care if Github does or does not host projects with ads as a policy point. \u00a0It's a side issue at best to me.

The bad precedent here is in the method they went about this, in my opinion. \u00a0There was no real communication to the project owners. \u00a0They weren't given a chance to take corrective action prior to the takedown. \u00a0They were immediately taken down and the project owners had to find out on their own. \u00a0That's just a bad way of doing things in general. \u00a0There are cases where it would be justified (clear and present legal problems that a project presents to GitHub for instance), but that wasn't it. \u00a0It shows how little care is given to such matters.","body":"@verius<\/a> This is why most TOS have those blanket "we can do whatever for any reason" backup clauses, but really, it sets a bad precedent.

And I don't say that because of the ad thing. \u00a0I don't care about that actually, insofar as them hosting it. \u00a0I'd avoid a project that had such ads as a personal choice, but I don't care if Github does or does not host projects with ads as a policy point. \u00a0It's a side issue at best to me.

The bad precedent here is in the method they went about this, in my opinion. \u00a0There was no real communication to the project owners. \u00a0They weren't given a chance to take corrective action prior to the takedown. \u00a0They were immediately taken down and the project owners had to find out on their own. \u00a0That's just a bad way of doing things in general. \u00a0There are cases where it would be justified (clear and present legal problems that a project presents to GitHub for instance), but that wasn't it. \u00a0It shows how little care is given to such matters.","id":"tag:community.highlandarrow.com,2016-12-31:noticeId=513007:objectType=comment","object":{"displayName":"@verius This is why most TOS have those blanket \"we can do whatever for any reason\" backup clauses, but really, it sets a bad precedent. And I don't say that because of the ad thing. \u00a0I don't care about that actually, insofar as them hosting it. \u00a0I'd avoid a project that had such ads as a personal choice, but I don't care if Github does or does not host projects with ads as a policy point. \u00a0It's a side issue at best to me. The bad precedent here is in the method they went about this, in my opinion. \u00a0There was no real communication to the project owners. \u00a0They weren't given a chance to take corrective action prior to the takedown. \u00a0They were immediately taken down and the project owners had to find out on their own. \u00a0That's just a bad way of doing things in general. \u00a0There are cases where it would be justified (clear and present legal problems that a project presents to GitHub for instance), but that wasn't it. \u00a0It shows how little care is given to such matters.","id":"tag:community.highlandarrow.com,2016-12-31:noticeId=513007:objectType=comment","type":"comment","url":"tag:community.highlandarrow.com,2016-12-31:noticeId=513007:objectType=comment"},"to":[{"objectType":"person","id":"https:\/\/community.highlandarrow.com\/user\/500","url":"https:\/\/community.highlandarrow.com\/user\/500"}],"context":{"inReplyTo":{"objectType":"note","id":"tag:community.highlandarrow.com,2016-12-31:noticeId=512996:objectType=note","url":"https:\/\/community.highlandarrow.com\/notice\/512996"},"conversation":"http:\/\/rainbowdash.net\/conversation\/3778879"},"published":"2016-12-31T10:57:19+00:00","postedTime":"2016-12-31T10:57:19+00:00","provider":{"objectType":"service","displayName":"Rainbow Dash Network","url":"http:\/\/rainbowdash.net\/"},"title":"@verius This is why most TOS have those blanket \"we can do whatever for any reason\" backup clauses, but really, it sets a bad precedent. And I don't say that because of the ad thing. \u00a0I don't care about that actually, insofar as them hosting it. \u00a0I'd avoid a project that had such ads as a personal choice, but I don't care if Github does or does not host projects with ads as a policy point. \u00a0It's a side issue at best to me. The bad precedent here is in the method they went about this, in my opinion. \u00a0There was no real communication to the project owners. \u00a0They weren't given a chance to take corrective action prior to the takedown. \u00a0They were immediately taken down and the project owners had to find out on their own. \u00a0That's just a bad way of doing things in general. \u00a0There are cases where it would be justified (clear and present legal problems that a project presents to GitHub for instance), but that wasn't it. \u00a0It shows how little care is given to such matters.","verb":"post","url":"tag:community.highlandarrow.com,2016-12-31:noticeId=513007:objectType=comment","statusnet:notice_info":{"local_id":"4524102","source":"ostatus"}},{"actor":{"displayName":"verius","id":"https:\/\/community.highlandarrow.com\/user\/500","avatarLinks":[{"url":"http:\/\/av.rdn.io\/avatar\/39457-original-20181017075403.png","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/png","width":"96","height":"96"},{"url":"http:\/\/av.rdn.io\/avatar\/39457-original-20181017075403.png","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/png","width":"96","height":"96"},{"url":"http:\/\/av.rdn.io\/avatar\/39457-48-20181017075403.png","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/png","width":"48","height":"48"},{"url":"http:\/\/av.rdn.io\/avatar\/39457-24-20181017075403.png","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/png","width":"24","height":"24"}],"image":{"url":"http:\/\/av.rdn.io\/avatar\/39457-original-20181017075403.png","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/png","width":"96","height":"96"},"type":"person","url":"https:\/\/community.highlandarrow.com\/user\/500","statusnet:profile_info":{"local_id":"39457"},"contact":{"preferredUsername":"verius","displayName":"verius","note":"nil"}},"content":"And Github manages to shoot their own foot again:\u00a0https:\/\/daplie.com\/articles\/why-github-took-down-daplie\/<\/a>

I can understand why they don't want ads in a README, but the whole thing stinks of a power trip. They should at least have related their actions to their own terms of service and send an email to the owners of the repo informing them of why their repo was turned private.

GH is well within their right to not want to be an ad platform, but put kiwi like that in your ToS. It's not like a good lawyer can't think of "people may put ads in their repo's", thinking of ways people may abuse your service is their job and you pay them well for it.

But most of all, don't take unilateral actions unless you can point to a ToS violation or the law. Nobody likes companies with "we do whatever we feel like" policies.","body":"And Github manages to shoot their own foot again:\u00a0https:\/\/daplie.com\/articles\/why-github-took-down-daplie\/<\/a>

I can understand why they don't want ads in a README, but the whole thing stinks of a power trip. They should at least have related their actions to their own terms of service and send an email to the owners of the repo informing them of why their repo was turned private.

GH is well within their right to not want to be an ad platform, but put kiwi like that in your ToS. It's not like a good lawyer can't think of "people may put ads in their repo's", thinking of ways people may abuse your service is their job and you pay them well for it.

But most of all, don't take unilateral actions unless you can point to a ToS violation or the law. Nobody likes companies with "we do whatever we feel like" policies.","id":"tag:community.highlandarrow.com,2016-12-31:noticeId=512996:objectType=note","object":{"displayName":"And Github manages to shoot their own foot again:\u00a0https:\/\/daplie.com\/articles\/why-github-took-down-daplie\/ I can understand why they don't want ads in a README, but the whole thing stinks of a power trip. They should at least have related their actions to their own terms of service and send an email to the owners of the repo informing them of why their repo was turned private. GH is well within their right to not want to be an ad platform, but put Potato Knishes like that in your ToS. It's not like a good lawyer can't think of \"people may put ads in their repo's\", thinking of ways people may abuse your service is their job and you pay them well for it. But most of all, don't take unilateral actions unless you can point to a ToS violation or the law. Nobody likes companies with \"we do whatever we feel like\" policies.","id":"tag:community.highlandarrow.com,2016-12-31:noticeId=512996:objectType=note","type":"note","url":"tag:community.highlandarrow.com,2016-12-31:noticeId=512996:objectType=note"},"context":{"conversation":"http:\/\/rainbowdash.net\/conversation\/3778879"},"published":"2016-12-31T10:50:58+00:00","postedTime":"2016-12-31T10:50:58+00:00","provider":{"objectType":"service","displayName":"Rainbow Dash Network","url":"http:\/\/rainbowdash.net\/"},"title":"And Github manages to shoot their own foot again:\u00a0https:\/\/daplie.com\/articles\/why-github-took-down-daplie\/ I can understand why they don't want ads in a README, but the whole thing stinks of a power trip. They should at least have related their actions to their own terms of service and send an email to the owners of the repo informing them of why their repo was turned private. GH is well within their right to not want to be an ad platform, but put Potato Knishes like that in your ToS. It's not like a good lawyer can't think of \"people may put ads in their repo's\", thinking of ways people may abuse your service is their job and you pay them well for it. But most of all, don't take unilateral actions unless you can point to a ToS violation or the law. Nobody likes companies with \"we do whatever we feel like\" policies.","verb":"post","url":"tag:community.highlandarrow.com,2016-12-31:noticeId=512996:objectType=note","statusnet:notice_info":{"local_id":"4524093","source":"ostatus"}}],"links":[{"url":"http:\/\/rainbowdash.net\/conversation\/3778879","rel":"alternate","type":"text\/html"}]}