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"Bronies" is gender bias, intentional or not. Let's replace it. But with what? Ponyfans? FiMfans?
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@retl Well, what the hell did they call themselves before us? Moreover, are enough women fans getting angry enough to warrant doing so?
Saturday, 10-Sep-11 14:38:45 UTC from web-
@theowl No clue if it's offending other females, but think of it this way. If every single pony fan ever had to be called fillies, do you think most of the males would be fast to flip it at the tongue? It goes the same way around. Though admittedly, in my case, I pretty much refuse to define fans by their label. Including myself.
Saturday, 10-Sep-11 15:51:57 UTC from web-
@retl I wouldn't even care. I think 'Brony' is a horrible word and don't use it, but not because of some gender issue that doesn't exist in the fandom. I've only ever seen non-MLP fans get up in arms about it. Besides, the idea that we HAVE to change what we call ourselves is ridiculous. They can call themselves pegasisters all they like, don't tell me what I can and can't do.
Saturday, 10-Sep-11 16:32:58 UTC from web-
@theowl "They can call themselves pegasisters all they like, don't tell me what I can and can't do." The way you splice these two sentences implies that I'm commanding you to do something. Not sure if that was intentional or not. But I disagree, and acknowledge that I didn't start my initial post efficiently. Bronies as a term to refer to the unexpected demographic of FiM specifically is suiting, but Bronies as FiM or MLP fans in general gets dubious from the implied meaning of the amalgamation of Bro Ponies. I guess even then it ties back against my earlier argument of it being fitting, as it would seem to imply male MLP fans in general, but then it gets even more dicey if we trace it does to 4chan roots I prefer to disregard. But it still doesn't resolve my earlier question of what would be better. Pony fans? FiM fans? But I guess in the end, the comment you're giving me this time isn't a question so much as a personal declaration. I'm not sure what I'm supposed to respond to that.
Saturday, 10-Sep-11 16:41:58 UTC from web-
@retl No, I just sucked at grammar. It wasn't so much a question as a direct statement; it's now impossible to change. You're a year too late. Whether you'd prefer to disregard the 4chan roots of the fandom is irrelevant, because they're present and had an active role in the naming of the fandom (which was originally /b/ronies as a play on the word /b/ro, which refers to /b/ posters). Gender simply does not come into it!
Sunday, 11-Sep-11 06:53:33 UTC from web-
@theowl Being defeatist isn't good for persuasion. (Also, the amalgam is still masculine regardless of where 4chan did it, or fchan did it, or gurochan did it. If we want to refer specifically to /b/ronies though, the argument still falls as /b/ro is still masculine. Majority of the users of 4chan are known to be young adult males. http://www.4chan.org/advertise )
Sunday, 11-Sep-11 15:10:56 UTC from web
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Saturday, 10-Sep-11 14:43:37 UTC from web
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@macpony55 But it hasn't been this way for years yet. Why accept it instead of change it before it cements?
Saturday, 10-Sep-11 15:50:34 UTC from web-
@retl I personally have nothing against changing it, but your talking about changing the way thousands of people talk on a daily basis, and @theowl has a point, the majority of the society is male, so of course what we call ourselves is going to be gender biased, it may be easier to just come up with a name for women since I doubt anypony will be able to get rid of Brony
Saturday, 10-Sep-11 15:58:20 UTC from web-
@macpony55 Coming up with another name for female fans ends up causing a worse issue of *forcing* the divide further by saying that WELL NOW IF YOU USE THE OTHER TERM YOU ARE WRONG. Also, I'm not convinced the entirety is male, so much as what I was getting at before: By having the term tinted for male use, females have less reason to use it. In some sense, yes. Bronies referring to specifically male fans fits well for FiM's unexpected demographic well. But when referring to fans of MLP or FiM at large, using Bronies to refer to that group is a massive undercutting of the intended categorization.
Saturday, 10-Sep-11 16:04:54 UTC from web-
@retl you make good points, all I'm saying is trying to change the name Brony is not going to be easy, if it's even possible
Saturday, 10-Sep-11 16:10:26 UTC from web-
Saturday, 10-Sep-11 16:21:35 UTC from web
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Saturday, 10-Sep-11 16:22:21 UTC from web
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Saturday, 10-Sep-11 15:48:37 UTC from web
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Saturday, 10-Sep-11 15:52:13 UTC from web
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@retl I went off on a tangent about this on Tumblr; http://doctormowinckel.tumblr.com/post/8703583063/the-term-brony People just don't get it.
Sunday, 11-Sep-11 06:58:34 UTC from web-
@engelhardt I am totally down with calling it #TheHerd
Sunday, 11-Sep-11 15:05:09 UTC from web-
@retl I think my casual indifference to "brony" comes from living in California. I'm pretty sure I've addressed my own mom as "dude" before. XD
Sunday, 11-Sep-11 15:06:26 UTC from web-
@scribus Yepyep. XD Most of the people I know use dude on almost anything and everything humanlike. If they use the term at all. Though I've heard the occasional person who objects to that term, but it's usually an objection to the term dude itself rather than objections to being considered male when they're really female. (That said, I use 'dude' more often on the internet. Very rarely in my speaking lexicon.)
Sunday, 11-Sep-11 15:12:41 UTC from web
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@engelhardt I disagree with this rant. But I will personally use #TheHerd. So as long as I'm still living, there's at least one person going for it.
Sunday, 11-Sep-11 17:45:30 UTC from web
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