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Holy bananasing mangoes guys this music. http://rainbowdash.net/url/778818
Saturday, 20-Sep-14 02:36:26 UTC from web- MetalTao likes this.
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@coltz Inb4Tyler comment about how bad Imagine Dragons is
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@fyf Already waiting for it
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@coltz As far as the video goes, it's pretty great. I love how dramatic their videos always are. I remember last year's when they all became Anime characters and beat the grapes out of each other
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@fyf Imagine Dragons is to indie rock what Linkin Park is to normal rock.
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@fyf They aren't too bad actually. I mean, no vilification is required.
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@fyf Yes, they do a great job at video making. I'm still starting to listen to them, but I'am already liking their style a lot.
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@fyf UNINSPIRED OVERPRODUCED NEO INDIE DROLL ALARM BEEP BEEP BEEP
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@metaltao You're talking to the wrong person, I like Imagine Dragons
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@pandabear Actually by that logic it makes perfect sense for you to like Imagine Dragons.
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@northernnarwhal HAH! It is still music. Uninspired? And, what is Over Produced? You mean time? Money? Effort? WHat production is? I still don't understand what that means.
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@northernnarwhal Not as overproduced as U2 or Nickelback, not as uninspired as Mumford and Sons, and less neo indie droll than DFA 1979
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@northernnarwhal BEEP BEEP BEEP? You were refering to how often you have stated this in the past like a broken record right? Or like a robot? Or did that mean something else?
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@fyf >DFA1979
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@fyf Wat does Overproduced mean?
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@metaltao Over produced is basically when they spend too much time in editing. Stuff like too much unnecessary reverb, auto-tune, needless filters, that kinda stuff. A lot of bands use it to try to make their music sound good when it really isn't.
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@northernnarwhal Can you elaborate please? Or would you rather not?
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@fyf Mind if I go on a small rant? Or debate with you on this? Like how nothing is needless, it is a song. They are not catering to you like Katy Perry and other Commercialized artists. Just themselves.
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@metaltao But, even then, she does have some input, and the writers are artists themselves
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@metaltao But I guess the question may be, are they expressing their views or someone elses?
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@metaltao A lot of singers don't even write their own music, and very few produce their own music. I want to stress the point that I /don't/ think Imagine Dragons is overproduced. However I /do/ think being overproduced is a bad thing.
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@metaltao *sigh* Ellie pretty much covered the overproduced part, in the sense that the group's music is very pristine and clean cut to be mass produced and marketed to a wide audience who could never understand the sheer concept of dissonance as an element of musicality. That being said, the group is also generally very uninspired, utilizing large amounts of lyrical cliches and hooks to compensate for their otherwise uninteresting and rehashed instrumentation. Generally speaking the group has presented themselves as a poster child for this new movement of music listeners who abide by the philosophy of "OMG SO INDEH GUIZE" and wouldn't know an independent record if they got slapped across the face with one. That is, in short, why I don't like Imagine Dragons.
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@northernnarwhal Compare Night Visions, Some Nights, and Native. I don't want to say they're exactly the same because to a music pleb who doesn't notice themes, arche-types, chord progressions, lyrical cliches, and stuff like that, they may seem like very different albums. They're not. They're the exact same.
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@fyf Also I like all three of them.
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@metaltao Basically, they do all that production stuff because they can't make their music sound good naturally. They also tend to dumb it down so that it will appeal to a general audience, but in doing so it loses any sort of power it may have had.
Again, when I say "they", I /don't mean Imagine Dragons/MetalTao likes this. -
@northernnarwhal AHHH! NOW THAT! Is interesting! I guess yeah, they do seem rather awkward there. Now, I just thought. Do they act as a gateway to other people to the rest of this genre? Because they are so generic, they are able to grab peoples interest in the genre and explore? Probably. I do see you point. But, I have yet to see these "Cliches" yet. I am not perceptive at all. But redundancy is not inherently a bad thing. Great job dude! I LOVED READING THIS! I think I can understand where you are coming from finally. I had a rather negative view of you I couldn't shake off! Thanks!
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@fyf Well, different means to the same end. Imagine Dragons rip off Radiohead and Fun rip off Simon & Garfunkel (on Some Nights, anyway, their first was great)
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@metaltao To be fair, you probably don't notice these cliches and what not because you probably don't listen to music as critically as Tyler.
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@northernnarwhal Well, I'm talking entirely Night Visions era Imagine Dragons and Some Nights era Fun. Imagine Dragons era Imagine Dragons was delightful, and Aim and Ignite era Fun was wonderful
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@northernnarwhal I used to screw with an OMG INDEH pre-hipster scene-dweeb by pointing out that at the time of this single http://youtu.be/--2nwwrv37s Alice Cooper was on an "independent" label, and therefore "indie."
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@fyf I honestly wasn't even that crazy about early Imagine Dragons either, but Aim and Ignite by Fun is a glorious record.
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@northernnarwhal Early Imagine Dragons has nothing on early Fun, but they're still better and less generic than modern Imagine Dragons.
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@scribus I just find it hilarious when these kids think they're hot stuff and "so indie" yet they don't even know who Pavement are.
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@fyf Yes, I agree with all of that.
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@northernnarwhal I don't know who Pavement are. I liked Thundersnail, though!
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@scribus Look at it this way: Pavement are to indie rock what Alice Cooper is to shock rock.
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@northernnarwhal Widely under-appreciated musicians more well-known for their theatrics who frequently surprise casual listeners with both their depth and breadth?
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@scribus I was thinking "godfathers of their respective genres" but that actually also fits both groups.
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@northernnarwhal I love it when I'm goofing around and happen to also still be right. :p
