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Well, is it hazing or hostility? Where does the line draw?
Sunday, 21-Sep-14 06:57:33 UTC from web-
@awlditzy Neither of them are good, to be honest.
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@awlditzy Is it same? Is there malice? Malice is bad. Guilt is bad mentally and physiologically.
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@awlditzy It seems closer to hazing
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@redenchilada I suppose not... not like I want to have to tip-toe around people but I kind of agree with you... into that if I had faced some of that when I joined I'd have left more permanently (probably).
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@awlditzy Agreed.
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@awlditzy I totally get not wanting to walk on eggshells and freedom to discuss what you want etc, but when someone joins to a community full of inter-depreciating jokes and "ponies suck" on a pony site it's... offputting, to say the least. But I'm no more than a couch commentator on the community here at this point, so it's not worth getting upset about.
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@redenchilada I face worse than what is said here irl but it does irk me just a tiny bit with all the "le ponies suck" thing. Not enough to say anything until pressed, but, there you have it.
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@awlditzy Especcially when they don't tell you it is all a facade to mess with you later.
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@metaltao That's when you have two options; play with facade or make them more uncomfortable about you.
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@awlditzy Or never know? Is that an option? I mean, what do you do with out of place hatred? It feels like running into a town for family and finding a bunch of Invaders in your town.
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@metaltao clam down man its the interent
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@awlditzy Or, running into town and finding your uncle and family turn against you.
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@metaltao Simple. Find another place. Or bunker down and get used to it, and throw kiwi back.
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@rainbowlover Yup, but is it a natural law the way things are? I am talking. Isn't that part of the internet as well? I mean, I am just talking here. I hope. I do hope you understand, I just don't get to discuss this a lot with people. I don't mean no harm I am sorry... @northernnarwhal @Awlditzy
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@metaltao i dont understand your talkin sporadical
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@metaltao Stop apologising for everything.
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@rainbowlover I do that. But it would be Sporadically.
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@metaltao NEW GUY SAID CLAM DOWN YOU CLAM DOWN
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@northernnarwhal But I am? It is redundant... Is it my tone? Should I change that? AYE! I will try, I am not good with Diction.
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@metaltao Keep your diction in your pants
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@northernnarwhal EAT MY DICTION! But, seriously bro. I just want to go and run into this convo here! It is just something I haven't got to talk about yah know? The way it just, is hard to talk about. Like what it means to welcome. Can we try that bro?
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@metaltao HEAL YEAH!
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@metaltao What it means to welcome http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/welcome
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@northernnarwhal Yes, indeed. Shall we talk about that and the ethics of a salutation?
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@northernnarwhal I thought welcoming was that thing I pay $5 per month to run a bot to do for us
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@northernnarwhal H ho ho?
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@northernnarwhal Also, I feel like you don't want me to talk about anything though. Is that true? Or am I reading this wrong? Sorry. But I feel like I should be asking this broseferino
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@redenchilada That too
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@metaltao You know it might just be your inferring "bro" into everything. Just a thought.
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@awlditzy Yeah, but I am indecisive. I sometimes like a clear answer. I am getting to real here. I should have left. I sound angry, but I am just devoid of emotion.
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@metaltao Angry, no. Pushing on what is obviously a wall, yes. OR, just impatience.
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@awlditzy I don't follow? What do you mean? Am I preaching to deaf ears? If I am preaching. I am not sure. Is there something rude I am doing? Please tell me.
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@metaltao we all must learn to read the wrold ourselfs
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@rainbowlover True, but I was born without much of a capability to do that.
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@metaltao constant replies to one post is going to make some people less willing to say anything in reply. It shows impatience, and lack of understanding to an extreme degree. Take deep breaths before typing. Relly.
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@metaltao it isnt about born its about learn
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@rainbowlover Yes, I am sorry, it is about learning, but I don't know anyone who makes books on this stuff you know?
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@awlditzy OH! I looked mean! OH! I didn't see that! I was being... kiwier... Damn perception... I should always learn... Bye...
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@metaltao you lern threw life! you learn threw experence
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@metaltao quoth Rarity via here, "Leaving doesn't make the stupid go away".
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@metaltao dont leve in sham when you mess up, stay and make fix!
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@awlditzy Yes, but people may not be happy with me.
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@metaltao So??
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@awlditzy I don;t want to make any more stupid mistakes.
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@metaltao u cant plz everyone, look toe plz the people u can
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@awlditzy They are my friends. It is the last thing I want.
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@metaltao Guess what, you're going to. No way you can avoid it. C'est la vie.
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@awlditzy I believe I can. I just need to be more aware. More understanding. I am just an idiot. ANd, now, I am getting people to talk about me. Which is not a good thing.
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@metaltao I've made enough stupid mistakes to know that stupid mistakes are part of life. We grow because of stupid mistakes.
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@metaltao bascally be a man. dont care so much bout wat ppl think. you find then ppl like you more
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@metaltao No matter how much you prepare for something life's going to throw a curve ball at you. What makes us US is how we deal with it, and how we move on.
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@awlditzy @rainbowlover So, you guys get upset when I do leave like that?
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@metaltao idk im new here but leving when argue starts solvs nothin, just mak u look week and ppl walk ovr u
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@metaltao Man I get upset over very little that isn't focused on my being a toxic vermin.
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@rainbowlover We were arguing?
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@awlditzy I didn't know we were arguing.
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@awlditzy I am sorry...
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I guess, I forgot where I was.
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@metaltao Basically, when you feel like you make a mistake or whatever, you shouldn't leave, you should talk it out to the end. It may be hard but in the end it'll be better for everyone.
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@metaltao Also, don't take this the wrong way, but you may want to apologize yet. You think you're being nice by doing it, but to a lot of people it just comes off as annoying and tedious.
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@fyf Aye... But, what do I do to show my, I guess. "Feel bad"? What is it called... It makes sense to be annoyed by that, it sounds like a broken record. But, I do feel bad. What do I do? I can't make anything, I can't fix it. I don't have that knowledge. Please, what do I do? It has kind of been imprinted into me. A coping mechanism if he will.
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@metaltao I guess I am in denial that I know humility.
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@metaltao That's the thing, it's not something I can really just explain, it's something you have to learn. The best way to learn is by just facing it, and not leaving when things go bad. That's how we learn.
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@fyf Aye, I always just thought of personal space when this happens, I over step other peoples comfort zones, and I have to leave. Bad habit I picked up from being a loner for a long time I guess. I feel like I should tell someone about my life, but that feels selfish, especially now.
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@metaltao Okay, in response to something you said earlier, you aren't in denial about humility. If anything you're /too/ humble. You think it's selfish to talk to your friends about your life, but that's part of what being friends is about.
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@metaltao Too much humility is a bad bad thing you know. It seems forced and further alienates.
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@awlditzy It's actually a flaw of mine sometimes. I let things slide that bother me because I don't want to be a burden. Then eventually they become major issues.
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@fyf Aren't people supposed to ask though? It is all very confusing.
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@fyf Well, truely letting things slide isn't humility is it? Sure, keeping things back on purpose of not making waves... well no I wouldn't call that humility either, that's politeness or being contrite to a fault. I suppose, one can argue semantics on that.
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@awlditzy Contrite, now that is a word I don't know about.
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@metaltao Not necessarily. If you think talking about your life will help you, you should do it on your own terms. For example, if I decided at this exact moment, I can think of several people here who would be perfectly willing to hear it, and wouldn't think I'm being selfish.
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@metaltao basically means feeling guilt or remorse
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@fyf Indeed you are not.
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@fyf This is quite a lot ot take in.
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@awlditzy The reason it isn't selfish is because they know I would do the same for them.
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@metaltao I know. It's hard to grasp, but I believe in you.
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