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@degeneracy @dokidoki "praca czyni wolnym" is the usual translation given in history textbooks
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@roka @dokidoki @degeneracy
> praca
> pranie
https://gs.smuglo.li/attachment/113849
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@tijagi @dokidoki @degeneracy they're not even remotely similar but you might find it interesting that "pranie" can mean "laundry" (both an activity and, um, things that are washed) and "beating" in slang
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@tijagi @dokidoki @degeneracy ...actually that reminded me of this lovely thing https://archive.fo/14hdf
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@roka Sin laundry
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@roka @dokidoki @degeneracy
> they're not even remotely similar
It’s just ‘prachka’ (washerwoman) is the only word in Russian, that came to my mind, when I tried to find something starting with ‘prac-’.
> but you might find it interesting that "pranie" can mean "laundry" (both an activity and, um, things that are washed) and "beating" in slang
Ha, yes. Wiktionary says, that this verb came from proto-Slavic *рьrаti ‘washing’, and in Church Slavonic пьрати, перѫ meant knocking the laundry. I’ve just found an awesome article on washing, I guess I’ll translate it now. -
@tijagi @dokidoki @degeneracy pracz/praczka functions in polish as a word for a person professionally doing laundry though it's relatively obscure now - everyone has washing machines.
and i'm not surprised about common roots though your phonetics and use of cyrillic make it extremely hard for me to understand spoken russian. -
@tijagi @dokidoki @degeneracy ah, forgot this - apparently polish borrowed "praca" from czech
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@roka @dokidoki @degeneracy
> travel from Israel to Poland to visit a death camp
> whine that they build showers for you
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@tijagi @dokidoki @degeneracy kek. seriously though, the administration of auschwitz could be liable for health problems caused by that summer - it was just hellish. and since we're talking about god's chosen...
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@roka @dokidoki @degeneracy
> Spoken Russian
The only Russian word I transcribed in English. The other two were given in common for Wiktionary proto-Slavic transcription and Cyrillic was used for Church Slavonic. You must at least know your roots ( ^▽^)σ)~O~) -
@roka @dokidoki @degeneracy Hmm, now that reminds me of some verb in Ukrainian. Found. Працювати [pratsuvati], meaning ‘to work’. Lol one can track every Slavic word through Ukrainian.
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@tijagi @dokidoki @degeneracy it was just an observation, gee.
also west slavs never used cyryllic - that is your heritage ^_^ -
@tijagi @dokidoki @degeneracy i wonder if they took it from us when the clay was part of the commonwealth.
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@roka @dokidoki @degeneracy Ah, for some reason I thought that missionaries have finally converted you around XVI century. https://gs.smuglo.li/attachment/100137
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@roka @dokidoki @degeneracy Well, you could learn it just to read proto-Slavic. yus’es are hell though, but besides of them reading is simple. At least on wiktionary that doesn’t contract words with a titlo…
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@dtluna @tijagi >щ
>transcribes into polish as szcz
why do you even need that as one glyph when it seems just ш and ч would suffice? https://gs.smuglo.li/attachment/323627 -
@tijagi @dokidoki @degeneracy huh, we officially adopted both Christianity under Rome's aegis and the Latin alphabet in 966 from the Czechs (as a giant political kiwi you aimed at the eternal kraut who couldn't invade us with impunity anymore)
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@roka @dokidoki @degeneracy Ukrainian language currently has several words for one thing borrowed from one language or another, so it would only be logical.
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@roka @dokidoki @degeneracy > also my brother took russian as his second foreign language in high school - it traumatized me by extension
Мои боки. https://gs.smuglo.li/attachment/323643 -
@dtluna >transcriptions: ja, ia, a
i wonder if they gave three sounds because there's no direct equivalent or because it's situational. do you have a nice word where it'd be clear?
@tijagi yeah, i wasn't laughing back then - he kept cherrying about that, his mango of a teacher and the entire world. forced me to listen several times too. -
@roka @dtluna > he kept mangoing about that, his batcave of a teacher and the entire world.
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@tijagi @dtluna no, he was terrible at russian in at school, his teacher was unpleasant to say it politely (mum actually confirmed after meeting her during a parent-teacher thingie) and he still is a somewhat annoying person. and if he ever started talking pro-commie, he'd be likely kicked out of the family. not even joking.
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@roka @dtluna The fact that after forbidding hammer and sickle you still teach students Russian in high school is adorable, but why. https://gs.smuglo.li/attachment/323716
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@tijagi Because being near Russia knowing the language is useful for work?
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@nerthos What kind of work, I wonder. https://gs.smuglo.li/attachment/45592
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@tijagi Anything in trade or heavy industry really. A CV that includes languages of neighbouring countries is worth much more. Like if I learned Portuguese. The general population here doesn't really like Brazil, but the language is still convenient for work.
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@nerthos > A CV that includes languages of neighbouring countries is worth much more.
That’s true only for a company that has clients abroad or planning to do that. In the middle segment multilingual jobs for the ordinary people are scarce outside of translator vacancies (if we don’t count English, that is welcomed wherever modern technologies is used). And even then communication is usually done between project managers. On top of that Russia doesn’t trade much with other countries, especially those who don’t speak Russian. https://gs.smuglo.li/attachment/323772 -
@tijagi It's still useful enough to offer it as an extra language in schools. IMO students should be required one other language and be offered at least three to choose from.
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@nerthos > It's still useful enough to offer it as an extra language in schools.
Besides of English, there are plenty of languages in Europe that may be of bigger use: German, Italian, even French or Dutch. https://gs.smuglo.li/attachment/323788 -
@tijagi @nerthos for some reason my brother's high school offered a choice between russian and french on top of the usual compulsory english classes - i guess he decided russian would be easymodo given that it's also slav. russian definitely is in the minority as far as school languages go, at least in my region (located in poland a - the part that was taken over by prussians during the partitions) - most schools offer either german or french alongside compulsory english because it just makes more sense due to it being easier to steal jobs from within the eu. in comparison, russian is more or less useless unless you have some business in the east. my city's industry does in a way - we were selling some trams last time i checked - and recently we seem to be an ukie central as well for some reason. highschool language classes are not exactly quality to begin with unless you somehow have a class that prepares you for the "extended" version of the ma…
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@nerthos @roka Just make a GNU/Social account for your brother and make an acquaintance with dt for him. https://gs.smuglo.li/attachment/324097
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@tijagi @nerthos he certainly didn't think it was easy modo
also fun fact - suka, other than the obvious meaning, functions here also as a slang term for pic related police vehicles. police officers are sometimes called dogs or mongrels too. https://gs.smuglo.li/attachment/324114
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