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Saturday, 25-Aug-12 03:54:07 UTC from web-
Y'know what annoys me? Mormon people.
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@nixter sorry we annoy you! I know exactly 3 other RDN users beside myself who are Mormon. xD
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@pyravia No, I don't care what they believe in, just they want ME to believe in it, too.
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@nixter is this related to that whisper campaign that some Obama supported started?
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@pony Well it's not YOUR fault. I'm not hating someone for believing in... whatever you people believe in, it's just that I enjoy my Sundays WITHOUT trying to be converted, y'know? :p Although it's ok if you're Mormon or whatever, it's fine with me, just I don't like the fact that Mormons try to convert everyone constantly, you feel me?
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@pyravia :)
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@nixter Answer the door naked and covered in blood, with a goat head in your hand. They'll never bother you again.
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@toksyuryel I'm just curious, and I won't be offended whether you answer yes or no.. Do you feel like I've tried to push my beliefs on you at all?
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@pony I'm glad you're not being crazy defensive over your religion, I appreciate it!
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@pony Yes.
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@pony But I've tried to push mine on you too, so it evens out. :D
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@nerthos I don't know where to find a goat.
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@pony You didn't. You discussed them politely.
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@nixter myeah. I come from a community with lots of Jewish folks who absolutely hate being proselyted. I get where you're coming from xD
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@nixter Whenever they sell goat meat, ask for a head.
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@toksyuryel What what's your religion?
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@toksyuryel okidoke! I figured as much.. I mean yeah, no hard feeling about that. :3
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@nixter Plush.
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@pony Oh, them Jews, eh! Funny folk, funny folk.
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@nerthos Will do.
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@toksyuryel Erm, vhat?
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@nixter @ toksyuryel @nerthos I'm glad you feel that way. It's actually against our policy to force anyone to believe or think a certain way by arguing, etc., but we feel duty bound to actively offer a way of life to others that has brought us a lot of peace and joy. Methods vary obviously and some are very direct.
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@pony I wish it was just less direct. :P
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@nerthos We had most of our discussions about it over AIM. Those had a very different character from the discussions we had on site.
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@toksyuryel Oh well, I can't speak for those.
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@nixter i feel ya :3
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@pony You're like the best Mormon ever.
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@pony XP To be honest, I have met a ton of you... At my door on a Sunday morning. XD
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@nixter Oh my! Have you told them to leave you alone?That usually works
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@pony Good idea!
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@nixter cool 8)
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@pony (: Tell me, what's a Mormon family like?
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@nixter #latereply I had dinner and now I'm back. :) Lot's of emphasis on spending time together. Of course families are diverse as they are in any faith. I didn't grow up in one, but the ones I knew were typically large, like 4-5 kids or more and they paryed together at meals and went to church and spent at least one night per week together playing games since that's strongly encouraged.
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@pony Cool, cool.
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@nixter yeah. I loved hanging out with my cousins' family. They were always really fun and kind. My wife's family was very quiet and much less social cause her father was a dictator though
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@pony Erm. Define dictator.
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@nixter huge jerk xD
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@nixter but he's much more laid back now.
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@pony Like on of those people who have to control everything at all times?
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@nixter precisely. and blamed himself for everything so he was always in a really crappy mood
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@pony :/ Usually people like that blame OTHERS for their mistakes, weird.
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@pony so do you believe in mormon jesus and all?
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@nixter well yeah. BUt that's essentially the same thing. Back then he blamed others. Now he realized it was himself he blamed but just turned it out on others
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@abigpony what's the difference between Mormon Jesus and regular Jesus? Not sure about the label there.
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@pony True, true.
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@pony http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=46PXaJxzuDE&feature=youtube_gdata_player mormon jesus is obviously cooler.
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@nixter yup. Anyway, friends' families were usually pretty cool. My church had a very active youth program and their parents were often in charge of activities and he had tons of fun
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@abigpony lolol! I love that video
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@abigpony Of course i've seen the original video that's based on, and it's full of misinformation.. just FYI
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@pony Sounds like it's more of a way of life than a religion.
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@pony MORMON JESUS!
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@pony but seriously, why are mormon beliefs all weird and nonsensical?
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@nixter yeah. That's how most feel about it. I mean we have doctrines, ecclesiastical organization, and ceremonies, but really religion is something that you live if you believe in it
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@abigpony If you find a source from Mormon.org or LDS.org for me I'd be happy to explain it xD
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@pony True, true. I learned about Mormons today, that's pretty cool I guess. That's for teaching me about Mormon culture! I would tell you about Atheist culture but... X) lol
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@nixter hehe* yeah. I've talked to many atheists. Italy has quite a few despite being predominantly Catholic. THat's where I served my mission
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@pony well i had mormon friends who tried to tell me in the past, but even they couldn't fully grasp it.
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@pony I've noticed that we Atheists are striving for the truth, no offence to other religions and stuff, but we are looking for something that makes sense to us. Well, that's what I see in most Atheists, anyway.
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@pony I didn't ask that, but I am completely satisfied being clueless as to those things because finding the true reason behind those things is one of the reasons we still exist as a species I guess.
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@nixter I feel similarly. Our church's beliefs are summed up officially in 12 articles. http://www.lds.org/library/display/0,4945,106-1-2-1,FF.html The last phrase is thus: "If there is anything virtuous, lovely, or of good report or praiseworthy, we seek after these things." Truth is certainly one of the things we seek after.
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@nixter i think most athiests are just looking for truth and logic while we see religion as a grab bag of excuses.
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@abigpony I can tell you all about What, Who, When, and Where, but some of them may not have an official answer.
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@abigpony What religion are you?
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@pony Just wondering, what are the Mormon values of all the naturally controversial concepts among religions, e.g, divorce, abortion, homosexuality, meat eating, apostasy of family members, etc
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@purplephish20 Shun all the ponies!!! JUST KIDDING. xD There's a lot to answer just gimme a bit
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@purplephish20 Geez if I was up to talking about this I'd answer you.
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@foxgopher Then go ahead :P
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@purplephish20 I'm not up to it. I can give you short answers.
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@woona DEAR CELESTIA YES PLEASE
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@nixter athiest if that is considered a religion.
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@pony i don't even know what we're referring to anymore.
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@woona Thank you. You made me feel better by showing up. I was kinda crying and stuff.
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@purplephish20 We allow divorce and are very understanding when it's due to abusive partners, but otherwise it's frowned upon. We believe in abortion when medically necessary to save a mother's life or in the case of rape or incest, but otherwise it's frowned upon. Neither divorce nor abortion results in any disciplinary action as far as i know. (to be continued)
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@abigpony It is, and YES! Fellow atheist!
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@abigpony Mormon beliefs :3
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@woona Mom found out I was cutting words in my arm so I'm scared....
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@pony oh, yeah, they're silly as far as i know. I realize it'd probably take a while.
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@foxgopher Face palm.
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@anarchycarcino Thank you for that.
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@woona Yes.
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@nixter i really have a dislike for religion. I also don't get how atheism is considered a religion when it's more a lack of it. *shrug pony*
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@abigpony Elija tried to argue that too me.
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@abigpony Atheists don't believe in a God, just saying. I dislike religion, too. They are so flawed and stuff, I prefer sleeping in on Sundays, too. :)
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@woona I'm fine physically. Yes. Mentally not really.
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@foxgopher ooh, can you cut my name in next?
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@woona atheism is just as ignorant as any organised religion in my books.... Agnostic FTW, "nothing spiritual can be proven or disproven"
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@abigpony Nope its too long.
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@purplephish20 We're politically active against gay marriage and believe active homosexual practice is offends God, but we believe that we should be thier friends and hang out in social situations and show them we care about them, etc. just like we would want to be treated by those who disagree with us.. Our dietary code encourages us to eat meat sparingly, but most of us really aren't that strict about that. And family members who leave the church are supposed to be treated like any other family members.
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@nixter religion is lame, but whatever. I realize what atheism entails.
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@pony Sounds civilized enough.
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@abigpony Any time you feel like asking, be my guest. :)
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@woona We just think there isn't a God, you can believe that there is no God but believe that Science is bull, and that we are all here because of Aliens, just we believe in no God, but after that we think what we want too.
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@woona the lack of a belief in god is pretty much the only mutual belief among athiests, they just tend to believe in that stuff i guess.
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@woona Probably. Though probably for different reasons.
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@pony as much as I naturally disagree with a couple of those viewpoints, I admire the maturity you've shown in putting the points across
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@anarchycarcino what'd you guys settle on?
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@hoit21 That's idiotic "nothing exists" zealots. It's like saying all christians burn witches and heretics.
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@woona I'm special yay..
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@abigpony Religion is restricting, as far as I can see it.
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@nixter Like culture.
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@purplephish20 Yeah. years of practice :D
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@woona Idk. Its most likely not a good thing,.
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@pony i try to stay out of religion, but alright.
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@hoit21 Oh well, yeah, there are lots of idiots in the demographic.
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@abigpony Don't let me pressure you into anything. I just mean I'm happy to try and answer questions if you like
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@abigpony I gave up because arguing wiht him is like arguing over the internet.
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@hoit21 Or it's for people who listen to reason and find none in religion.
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@anarchycarcino lol
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@foxgopher no it's not. What are you cutting in that's shorter than that?
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@woona I imagine thats what coming for me too. I might go. We'll see. I'll let you know. In the mean time please try to stop *snuggle*
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@abigpony stuff. I don't feel like telling you. Because honestly I know you're laughing at my stupidity and I really appreciate that. I really do.
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@anarchycarcino was it heavy metal at least? Did he mention his precious directors?
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@purplephish20 If you asked me I couldn't tell you why I did
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@abigpony He probably did afterward.
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@woona *snugglekiss* possibly goodnight Woona. We'll talk tomorrow?
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@pony yeah, yeah, sure enough. Thanks i guess? I feel i should be thanking you for that.
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@woona good... thank you..
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@abigpony You're welcome. :) it just sounded like you wanted to ask things. If not that's cool. It's an open offer.
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@woona *hugs very tightly* <3
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@hoit21 It just contradicts itself way too often, religion.
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@hoit21 athiests are proven to have higher IQ and otherwise general knowledge then other religions, so...
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@pony yeah, not right now, though i am a bit curious. Maybe another time.
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@abigpony okidoke
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@woona Actually the "crash course" channel did an episode about that era and it turns out they weren't really as "dark" as is commonly taught http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QV7CanyzhZg
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@woona Mmm, well I like one of those words~
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@woona I guessed goo also
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@woona Oh my, did I really do it? Did I finally out-weird you? :D #greatsuccess
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@woona Mmm~
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@toksyuryel *feels like the joke passed him by*
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@foxgopher There was never a joke in the first place. I'm being completely serious.
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@toksyuryel Then I missed that.
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@woona :c
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@woona You need to find time for AIM again someday ☺
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@woona oh idk. I'm being dumb. Sorry.
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@woona You could replace "being in the sadness pit" with "being on AIM" :o
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@woona HAAAAIIIII!!!!!
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@woona *cuddlecuddlecuddle* I need cuddles so bad.
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@woona What's up?
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@woona Okie...
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@woona A circular room would really improve your overall life quality.
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@woona Watching the tele, deciding whether or not to promote cronyism as an alternative to religion
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@woona Bronyism*
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@woona Well, I really don't know what I'm watching. I think it's called "cocktales" or something on the comedy network
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@woona It's all in your mind. The possibilities are endless! You can do it. Imagiiine it. See it in your mind eye. Dooooo iiiittt :D
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@woona Talk to me instead~
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@woona You must have faith. The gate is there, you just weren't yet ready. Get the cookies and the chocolate, open the gate, and jump through that fake wall! The bricks are nothing, they will open for you! You will pass through it if you really believe! To adventure!
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