1.0 link Rainbow Dash Network http://rainbowdash.net/ Toksyuryel (toksyuryel) http://rainbowdash.net/toksyuryel http://rainbowdash.net/notice/1248324 @<span class="vcard"><a href="http://rainbowdash.net/user/2959" class="url" title="The Pony Formerly Known As Ponydude"><span class="fn nickname">widget</span></a></span> The box model is inconsistent and makes no bucking sense. Floats feel unpredictable. Sometimes a property will do nothing at all for no readily discernible reason. I have to spend hours with firebug just trial and erroring to find the exact incantation that will get the thing to look how I want it to look, and then I have to hope it works the same in all the other browsers' box model (this step is admittedly a lot easier with IE removed from the equation, since its box model is by far the most asinine).