1.0 link Rainbow Dash Network http://rainbowdash.net/ Pony (pony) http://rainbowdash.net/pony http://rainbowdash.net/notice/1684267 @<span class="vcard"><a href="http://rainbowdash.net/user/4498" class="url" title="Ainars"><span class="fn nickname">cameramagic</span></a></span> also, um.. what was i gonna add.. uh.. oh yeah! I like to fold the thread I use during the velvet stitch in half before threading it doubled through my needle, and then I place the eye of the needle in the center of the doubled thread. Then when I stitch I use 4 threads per stitch instead of 1, and it makes the embroidery much more full and go much more quickly.