1.0 link Rainbow Dash Network http://rainbowdash.net/ The white void (hakupony) http://rainbowdash.net/hakupony http://rainbowdash.net/notice/1702340 @<span class="vcard"><a href="http://rainbowdash.net/user/6761" class="url" title="My real name"><span class="fn nickname">pony</span></a></span> If we'd go with my premises, the discussion would be pretty soon over. Still, it seems an odd freedom. If I don't follow His ways, I'm in spirit prison where I can &quot;choose&quot; to do as He wants or go to hell, I guess. If that were true, the freedom of will would be the same freedom like the freedom in Iran - you can do what you want, you may get tortured for it, but you can do it.