1.0 link Rainbow Dash Network http://rainbowdash.net/ A Big Pony (bigpony) http://rainbowdash.net/bigpony http://rainbowdash.net/notice/1712076 @<span class="vcard"><a href="http://rainbowdash.net/user/8494" class="url" title="John H."><span class="fn nickname">crusader8</span></a></span> Well when L4D came out, it was just the beginning of the zombie craze. At that point, they weren't played out and it really became a standard for the genre. The main problem I have personally with either L4D is that it's oversimplified in that there's no challenge and you can move through the game practically without stopping. I never liked bioshock mainly because it moved too slow for me. It was boring gameplay and then when something DID happen, it's like, &quot;eh, that was kind of cool i guess.&quot;