1.0 link Rainbow Dash Network http://rainbowdash.net/ Bit Shift (bitshift) http://rainbowdash.net/bitshift http://rainbowdash.net/notice/1890686 @<span class="vcard"><a href="http://rainbowdash.net/user/2959" class="url" title="Kaiba (formerly Ponydude)"><span class="fn nickname">widget</span></a></span> If it has no group or user permissions, then only root can do things to the file (unless it has world permissions, but having those without group or user is uncommon enough that it'd have to be deliberate).