1.0 link Rainbow Dash Network http://rainbowdash.net/ Cloud Kicker (critialcloudkicker) http://rainbowdash.net/critialcloudkicker http://rainbowdash.net/notice/2777275 @<span class="vcard"><a href="http://rainbowdash.net/user/1089" class="url" title="BronieBrown"><span class="fn nickname">broniebrown</span></a></span> And 2 of them have X in the name yet they are written by the same toolkit as Gnome... Relearning lingo from the last time you touched Linux/Unix is a sore &gt;_&lt; ... Still I am glad I now have SO MUCH more choice than just Gnome or X back in the SuSe 4.0 days. I also did not have stable internet back then... hmmyea...