1.0 link Rainbow Dash Network http://rainbowdash.net/ Chris Bell (mrdragon) http://rainbowdash.net/mrdragon http://rainbowdash.net/notice/321629 @<span class="vcard"><a href="http://rainbowdash.net/user/2782" class="url" title="Giles"><span class="fn nickname">ixfocus</span></a></span> It's not the coding. It's the server based backend setup which it comes with. Trying to setup something that's coded in ruby to get it working on a site, is quite hard to say the least. Compaired to sql and tables, I have to work with rubygems first and make sure the needed gems are installed. Then SSH and make sure that the install sheets are there are avaliable, if not then I need to find out why (BIG BIG PAIN). Then I have to make sure it all works on rails. Then I still have the SQL and Tables to get done. Sure Ruby allows for a much wider range of interactions, but it's still a right pain to do.