1.0 link Rainbow Dash Network http://rainbowdash.net/ Tony Power-Hoof Marland (thunderflumps) http://rainbowdash.net/thunderflumps http://rainbowdash.net/notice/322135 @<span class="vcard"><a href="http://rainbowdash.net/user/1742" class="url" title="Zach K."><span class="fn nickname">zachariastargazer</span></a></span> Yes but if your new to the violin then it is'nt. My first client (brain cross) He has alot of trouble with doing it. I don't mind 5th i suppose it just becomes natural to do it at some point.