1.0 link Rainbow Dash Network http://rainbowdash.net/ Crusader 8 (princelypublictimeline) http://rainbowdash.net/princelypublictimeline http://rainbowdash.net/notice/3340743 @<span class="vcard"><a href="http://rainbowdash.net/user/1768" class="url"><span class="fn nickname mention">snowcone</span></a></span> You may not be directly ver batum (sp?) saying it's not people's responsibility to follow the law, but you've been giving me rebuttal after rebuttal every time I try to say or suggest that it is the responsibility of each person not to commit crime. Your general suggestion which can be inferred from your responses, is, &quot;it's not going away, so the responsibility lies with potential victims.&quot; At the very least, even if you are not trying to say that, since we are discussing a problem your end thus far seems to be a resignation to the risk-reduction solution. solution is a misnomer of course, because as long as individuals only try to reduce the risk, of course said acts of violence will always occur. There's a difference in saying something automatic will always occur (like gravity) and something involving a decision will always occur. maybe you already do, but you seem dismissive of any argument I make that we should actually solve problems and not treat symptoms.