1.0 link Rainbow Dash Network http://rainbowdash.net/ Cloud Kicker (critialcloudkicker) http://rainbowdash.net/critialcloudkicker http://rainbowdash.net/notice/4078680 @<span class="vcard"><a href="http://rainbowdash.net/user/33413" class="url" title="Nate Hacker"><span class="fn nickname mention">razzleberry</span></a></span> You know, exactly that. I mean, I like games that take long. But for Civ5 it kinda tests my patience with the fact that I really can not exploit my best perks to the point where I become a big unstoppable monster, or exploit my enemies weakness where I overcome a great obstacle through great tactical genousity. Due to it being turn-based and on a LUA engine that takes WAAAAAY too long per turn ( especially when on big map with over 12 computers )... Now Sins of a Solar Empire is actually a WAY longer game, and you can seriously exploit the hell out of your perks or your opponents weakness if you use your brain, and that game can take even longer.<br /><br />I still kinda wanna play a game that goes though the ages like Civ5 though... Perhaps I will go give Rise of Nations another go