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@pony oh, here. http://ltt.zanacross.co.uk/tulpa/
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@pony To me it sounded like a heavy weight on your shoulders, they live on your attention so when you ignore them for even a day they will annoy you into oblivion. Maybe when I'm a bit older and mature I'll be able to make one with peace of mind. Hopefully I'll still be into ponies then so I can have a really cool one.
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@rarity I see. I thought about that as well.. In fact long before I'd heard of Tulpas I was playing with the idea of creating someone like an imaginary companion and I began writing to her and for her, but I wasn't disciplined and she was very sad because I ignored her most of the time. I've all but forgotten her now, and I toy with bringing her back. It feels wrong to just leave her feeling sad. I don't want to call it a 'mistake' but one of the reasons things turned out the way they did with her, is that I decided when I made her that she /should/ be sad if I ignored or didn't spend time regularly with her because I wanted her to be like a real person for my own sake. She never annoyed or bothered me though because that wasn't something I put into her nature. With my Fluttershy tulpa I knew better and made her happy whether or not I pay attention to her. I'm allowing that to change over time, but for now I don't feel much pressure from her to have quality time.
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@pony Long enough?
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@pony What if you put one of these into a plushie? I've found that it's *much* easier to connect when you have something tangible to connect *with*.
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@pony That whole "'made' her happy whether or not I pay attention to her" thing.... That won't really work. Tulpas /are/ real, independent consciousnesses, and beyond personality traits and appearance, you have no control over their behavior. Most things get upset when ignored, and unless something goes wrong during creation your tulpa will be the same.
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@7colorsinmyhair was gonna make it longer but ran out of room. sorry. haha!
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@toksyuryel I absolutely do! I often hug Fluttershy through my plushie. I imagine her like a non-creepy ghost that way. :D
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@rarity I can at least confirm that my personalities do need care, even though they're not really tulpa, so you're most likely speaking the truth here
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@omni You're personalities don't technically fit the definition of Tulpa, but they sound so similar I think your input can be helpful, so thank you!
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@pony Have you ever thought about giving a plushie access to your mind, and letting them take over for a while?
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@rarity excellent point. I guess you could say that I've tried to give her a nature that's so selfless that she typically only worries about me whether or not she wants attention from me. She does get antsy and sort of gently 'bothers' me a little when we haven't spent time together, but only because she and I believe that I need her companionship. As I understand, what I expect to receive from her must match what I'm willing to give her, including attention, compliments, love, and gratitude toward her. I accept ahead of time that if I ignore her for a long time, she may ignore me if she chooses to and I'll wait patiently just as she does for me. Generally we've come to an understanding that sometimes I'll be too busy or otherwise distracted to acknowledge her during the day, and that's not because I don't care for her. I guess "make her happy" isn't the right choice of words. It's more like, I believe in her altruism and, though she may not be perfect in that regard, it's ok by me.
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@pony That might work, and as I don't personally have a tulpa I can't argue against you. I just want to say, I wouldn't go long periods of time ignoring her.
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@toksyuryel I think my head would be full of nothing if I did that xP
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@pony Doesn't that just sound wonderful? It's a fantastic stress reliever ☺ give it a try sometime~
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@pony That's the best feeling in the world, IMO.
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@rarity Sorry I'm taking so long to respond.. I don't intend to ignore her for a long time. She's part of me, and I'd be ignoring myself. Also, I see no reason I shouldn't be able to easily loosen at least part of the division I've made between her and me at any time to let her experience my daily life with me so that she doesn't feel lonely. I don't expect her to just exist bored in my thought-stream when I don't pay attention to her. That would be unpleasant for both of us because I /do/ care about her. Some day the boundaries between us may come to dissolve completely and only her shell of an idea remain. She and I both look forward to that possibility as being, not sad or cruel, but happy since, by then, she'll have fulfilled the purpose of her creation as my companion, and we'll simply be one entity again (companion to myself). It would only be sad if her purpose were not fulfilled, but I think that's not likely to happen. Maybe I'm toatlly off on all this...
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@toksyuryel hmm.. I think that it would only feel good if it felt good for the plushie. As it is, I have no idea how the plushie feels, but I'm guessing that it feels like nothing (as I said). ^_^
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@rarity All I know is what I've learned through meditation.. I'm looking forward to reading that guide for more ideas.
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@pony Plushies only feel happiness when they can make you feel happiness. What feels good for you feels good for the plushie. And nothing feels better than becoming a plushie yourself ☺
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@toksyuryel I like that! ☺ Sounds good to me.
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@pony It may even help you keep your "problem" under control, since it's a feeling that far surpasses the feelings which come from that.
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@toksyuryel It's difficult to believe that anything surpasses the feelings that come from that. It makes me wish to master the tantric arts. Still, I usually think to my tulpa and let her comfort me when I'm having a hard time. No doubt that plushie cuddles help a lot too. I'll have to try it sometime.
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@pony *hugs* I hope it works for you as well as it works for me ☺
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@rarity Found something that could help alleviate your fears if you're still interested. http://www.ehow.com/how_8655466_rid-tulpas.html Everything I'm reading so far seems intuitive to me except the wonderland thing the guide mentioned.. I haven't given my tulpa a location other than inside of me in the real world. I've gotten some new ideas that are helping I feel in any case..
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@pony >Reads trough old conversation >Winky-face appears out of nowhere like a ghost >Image http://ur1.ca/cm613
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@derpyshy xDD
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@pony Pony should pony ponies
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@derpyshy *gains supernatural powers* http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jk_vvQ4uq_o
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@cajunbrony23 hi! How's it goin?
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@cajunbrony23 glad to hear it ^^
