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The Cabal has arrived.
Monday, 04-Apr-11 23:23:56 UTC from web-
Monday, 18-Jun-12 14:03:14 UTC from web
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@macpony55 How dare you! My boyfriend is gay!
Monday, 18-Jun-12 14:04:58 UTC from web-
@derangedstallion And you're not :p
Monday, 18-Jun-12 14:06:01 UTC from web
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Monday, 18-Jun-12 14:06:42 UTC from web
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@leonkfox Well - this is how gender roles work. There is a certain understanding about what a male is suosed to like and dislike because of his gender. If you don't fit in this picture, the individuals who take the gender roles as an absolute given assume you are gay because gay men have the role to be pretty much females in male bodies. It is funny how even some gay men embrace that rule in a way that you get strange looks by them if you like "streight" stuff while being gay.
Monday, 18-Jun-12 14:09:35 UTC from web-
@hakupony I don't believe being gay entitles that one has to act as the opposite sex, that would just classify it as something completely different
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Monday, 18-Jun-12 14:11:50 UTC from web
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Monday, 18-Jun-12 14:12:36 UTC from web
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@leonkfox @purplephish20 @macpony55 I don't say that these classifications are right. It is just something I noticed - especially while talking with youths about homosexuality - there is the point that gays and lesbians aim to get a social role of their own (or just to refuse social roles9 but binary logic stings in the head of people. You either are male or female. You either act male or female. One funny thing is that there is some discrimination of "manly" gays against "sissy" gays as well. That's a thing you notice mostly in gayromeo. Those things are the reason i refer the "queer" concept :)
Monday, 18-Jun-12 14:16:28 UTC from web-
Monday, 18-Jun-12 14:17:54 UTC from web
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@leonkfox @purplephish20 @macpony55 @hakupony Gays are Like people. The're people.
Monday, 18-Jun-12 14:17:56 UTC from web-
@derangedstallion THEY ARE?!?!?
Monday, 18-Jun-12 14:18:20 UTC from web-
@macpony55 [i]-_-[/i]
Monday, 18-Jun-12 14:19:02 UTC from web
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@derangedstallion I agree. Your genitalia or those of your (desired) partner do not matter for your personality that much. Unfortunally, there are many peole who disagree on that.
Monday, 18-Jun-12 14:21:12 UTC from web-
Monday, 18-Jun-12 14:21:49 UTC from web
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@macpony55 I do, too.
Monday, 18-Jun-12 14:23:03 UTC from web-
Monday, 18-Jun-12 14:23:44 UTC from web
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@hakupony I completely agree, I refer to what I said yesterday, that outrageously purposeful obnoxious over-campiness, a la "bruno" is the reason that homophobia exists, I believe that that kind of stuff is just as ignorant. Like using the word "breeder" as a slur against straight people... Seriously, that happens
Monday, 18-Jun-12 14:35:16 UTC from web-
@purplephish20 I heard of it but I never seen anypony actually using it. Well, the whole affair of gender roles I hinted here is kind of my scientific main interest. The paper I write about MLP is just about what role media plays in how children get socialiszed in gender roles - and what the current changes (like FiM) in that regard are and what they mean for society - especially education. The whole affair also is one of the things I focus my political engagement on :-)
Monday, 18-Jun-12 14:42:12 UTC from web-
@hakupony hmm... So, how does it affect education? :3
Monday, 18-Jun-12 14:45:14 UTC from web-
@derpyshy To make long things shrt: my thesis is that gender roles tend to lose significance in many fields which challenges the idea you have special educations for girls and for boys - especially in social pedagogics. Also, there is the idea to construct school lectures for natur sciences in a way girls could easier relate to - for example by make connections with cooking. My point on that would be that you play a part in creating gender roles if you do that when the roles itself tend to fade. I'm not that far in the whole thing since I still talk about my methods. after that, I will have to analize three MLP series before I can even think about making sense of the results. So the whole thing is still retty much open.
Monday, 18-Jun-12 14:53:01 UTC from web-
@hakupony Ah... sounds interesting :)
Monday, 18-Jun-12 14:55:51 UTC from web -
@hakupony I mentioned this in conversation to my step dad, regarding a couple in england who have elected to raise their.... (im not sure on the actual gender) child "gender neutral" so as to allow it to decide for itself its pursuasion later in life, the responce was that no matter how people argue and phrase it, blue is for boys and pink is for girls, and that allowing there to be alternatives to these rules is cruel and damaging for the child. that these standards should be enforced while growing up
Monday, 18-Jun-12 14:57:36 UTC from web-
@purplephish20 Purple is better :3
Monday, 18-Jun-12 14:59:29 UTC from web -
@purplephish20 Well, I think that how society will react to your gender portrayal plays a role too. There is a term which gets used (but never defined) recently: gender competence. I believe that it will be a core factor for gender neutral education to work. This factor which IMHO does no get adressed often enough is perhas the biggest change the profession of social pedagogics has to make :)
Monday, 18-Jun-12 15:02:16 UTC from web
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@derpyshy Another thing that I have to think of is that traditional gender roles in families change - which could be an explaination why FiM managed to get aired and become successful. So it may be not a cause and not a result of the development.
Monday, 18-Jun-12 14:56:57 UTC from web-
@hakupony heh. So, it's not just "Hey teacher! I did what you showed us how to do!", but you actually accomplish something :3 Good luck ^3^
Monday, 18-Jun-12 14:58:39 UTC from web-
@derpyshy Thanks =3 I see science as a kind of art and I want to express myself with it if i get the chance to :)
Monday, 18-Jun-12 15:04:02 UTC from web-
@hakupony Great :4
Monday, 18-Jun-12 15:04:56 UTC from web
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