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@zine I wasn't promoting or condemning anything, I was making a demographic statement
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@zine I am panarchist
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@taknamay ... Is a panarchist someone who really likes the appeal of all "-archies" ?
Tuesday, 17-May-16 11:55:25 UTC from web-
@critialcloudkicker it is the idea that people should be able to choose any form of government without moving.
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@taknamay @critialcloudkicker "[...] without moving." reformism is gay, mkay
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@zine @critialcloudkicker How does that relate to reformism??
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@taknamay @critialcloudkicker Wikipedia: "Panarchism is a political philosophy emphasizing each individual's right to freely join and leave the jurisdiction of any governments they choose" "Reformism is the belief that gradual changes through and within existing institutions can ultimately change a society's fundamental economic system and political structures. This hypothesis of social change grew out of opposition to revolutionary socialism (ergo without moving)" its practically synonymous
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@zine @critialcloudkicker "without moving" is just a statement about geographical location, it is not telling you to sit down all day
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@taknamay @critialcloudkicker % wolfram define locale
Input interpretation
locale (English word) | definition
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noun | the scene of any event or action (especially the place of a meeting)
It defines that too in the wikipedia article, but it doesn't specify a location. It literally means an event in time. ergo, If I'm a state-capitalist now, I wouldn't need to change (or move) from that later on.-
@zine @critialcloudkicker Under panarchy, you would say " I am no longer associated with you." and be free from their laws.
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@taknamay @critialcloudkicker That would be realistic though. That would just be idealizing what you want without taking steps to seperate yourself from the state or it. They would still have means to do whatever they want to you.
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@zine @critialcloudkicker Panarchy is not about methods, it is a goal that we seek to attain. The methods are the same as other anarchists.
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@taknamay @critialcloudkicker That wouldn't be realistic though. That would just be idealizing what you want without taking steps to seperate yourself from the state or it. They would still have means to do whatever they want to you.
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@taknamay @critialcloudkicker Here's a visual aid of what I mean https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BLczJxTviz4
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@zine @critialcloudkicker As I said, panarchy has nothing to do with methods. It is the goal.
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@taknamay @critialcloudkicker A goal as in: http://www.panarchy.org/day/multigovernment.1977.html Multigovernment? No thanks. :)
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@zine @critialcloudkicker Never read that essay, I will take a look. Here is what I mean: http://www.panarchy.org/voltairine/anarchism.html
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@taknamay @critialcloudkicker hm. they are from the same website. Contradicting views perhaps?
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@zine @critialcloudkicker The website is not for the purpose of presenting a unified view. Just documenting similar ideas.
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@zine @critialcloudkicker Reforming is working within existing institutions. Panarchy means we have no obligation to existing institutions.
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@taknamay I really like the idea of that, but I do not have the ( either raw or free ) time to read an entire essay/RD-docu right now. I will bookmark it for later, thanks ^^
Wednesday, 18-May-16 09:44:57 UTC from web
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