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I spent an hour and a half today preparing lengua a la vinagreta but now I have a lot of it and will be enjoying sandwiches for a long time.
Thursday, 29-Dec-16 20:44:26 UTC from web-
@nerthos that doesn't sound like a very white dish..
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@somercet It mostly takes time but it's not hard to make.
Thursday, 29-Dec-16 23:40:32 UTC from web-
@nerthos Tongue is great with a mustard/wine sauce. Mmmmm
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@somercet Mustard sounds like something it'd go well to. It's also great in this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vitello_tonnato
I just love it because it has a dense yet soft consistence, and is not fibrous like most meats can be at times.Friday, 30-Dec-16 12:50:32 UTC from web
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@rw Says the guy who lives in a country with a 13% black population to the one whose entire lineage hails from western europe.
Thursday, 29-Dec-16 20:56:23 UTC from web-
@nerthos @rw Sorry you're only a person of colour or minority if you tow the progressive line. Any other divergent opinion means you surrender your status and become a mangolord guilty of wrongthink.
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Thursday, 29-Dec-16 20:58:43 UTC from web
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@nerthos Actually, live is usually red.
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@maiyannah Like me when out on the sun too much
Thursday, 29-Dec-16 21:01:13 UTC from web-
@nerthos I tend to get more brown than red. I'm literally the only person in my family who tanned rather than burned. I guess I didn't completely crap out at the genetic lotto.
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@maiyannah I get slightly tan when exposed only a bit to the sun over many days, but spending a full day in the sun burns my skin, so over the years I've taken to wearing long sleeved shirts. Now the only parts of my body that aren't really, really white are my face and hands since they're the only parts that get regular sun exposure.
Thursday, 29-Dec-16 21:05:31 UTC from web-
@nerthos I used to have the world's weirdest tan lines because of the leg brace I used to wear. Guess I don't have to worry about that any more when the leg's half metal now.
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@maiyannah You'd wear shorts? I haven't really worn those other than for swimming for the past... 8? years I think. Basically since I've been old enough to get my own clothes, I've always worn either jeans or dressing pants.
Thursday, 29-Dec-16 21:10:25 UTC from web-
@nerthos I'd kind of have to, unless I wore really baggy pants, because you couldn't wear the brace over clothing and it wasn't just one of those things that are weird socks, it was an actual genuine brace.
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@nerthos Or a dress I guess, but I rarely am in the mood for dresses.
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@maiyannah I can't wear dresses ;_;
Thursday, 29-Dec-16 21:15:01 UTC from web-
@nerthos That's what kilts are for.
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@maiyannah At that point I might as well wear a robe and be like a wizard.
Thursday, 29-Dec-16 21:17:49 UTC from web-
@nerthos Yer a wizzard 'arry
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@maiyannah I'm going to hide cookies in my sleeves
Thursday, 29-Dec-16 21:48:28 UTC from web
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@nerthos @maiyannah
Nothing is stopping you from going to your local clothes store, and picking out a dress to wear. Except for maybe how you'd judge yourself, or the fear of what others might say or think about it. ;)-
@sim I quite like traditional masculinity codes. Plus at 1.83m and with an obviously male skeleton I'd look outright idiotic in one. I'd do it for a joke but nothing else.
Thursday, 29-Dec-16 23:39:58 UTC from web-
@nerthos
Depends on the dress, I suppose. Quite a few of them are designed to show off feminine curves and body... and to look pretty doing so. Dresses do not have much practical value... they just feel a little more free on your legs because clothing isn't rubbing against your thighs so much. Maybe they are also lighter. But there isn't much point to them otherwise. Someone could design a dress that looks cool or whatever on a guy though, designed for their body.-
@sim @nerthos They're much easier to tailor, if you're having someone actually make you one. So there's that. But in a day where machines or small children in Chinese sweatshops are making things, rather than professionals, that's less of a thing.
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@maiyannah @nerthos
Oh yeah. I think it is much better when you have someone tailor it for you. Everything is so big on me otherwise. I have a very nice dress that you'd expect someone from the medieval period to wear... that and cloaks do provide some warmth which is handy as well. Maybe one day I'll have a personal cloak made for me.-
@sim Ha, I'd love to see that. Medieval enthusiast here. Cloaks are also nice, I made myself one some years ago that I wear on winter when I have to be static for long periods of time due to the whole air layer thing it causes.
Friday, 30-Dec-16 12:58:42 UTC from web-
@nerthos
Maybe I'll get it out again, and take a photo of the dress to show you. But not with me in it, cause I'm remaining anon. So that is probably less exciting. I wore a cloak too, but it doesn't fit the dress and it isn't mine personally... so creating one that fits would be cool. I like medieval stuff too... even tried writing some medieval stories which didn't get too far. Trying another time now, with a medieval fantasy.-
@sim That's fine. Put it on a mannequin or someone else, the dress will still show.
Friday, 30-Dec-16 13:58:41 UTC from web-
@nerthos
Sounds good to me. I have something that might work, failing that then I will just lay it out on a bed or something. But it may take me a while before I can do that.-
@sim No rush, do it whenever you can. I promised someone a pic of my completed plate armor a few years ago and still haven't delivered since it's not finished lol.
Friday, 30-Dec-16 14:08:26 UTC from web-
@nerthos
Lol... that is a long time to be waiting for it. But thanks... I certainly would like to get it out again, see how it looks. I also wonder if it still fits me. It's one of the rare moments that people will catch me in a dress outside. I've taken to moving towards sports trousers instead recently, and I could do with some more along those lines.
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@sim As for medieval stuff, I've been thinking for a while about buying some bronze sheets and making myself some clasps for sewing on jackets and the like instead of buttons.
Friday, 30-Dec-16 14:02:50 UTC from web-
@nerthos
Sounds good to me. Maybe we should make medieval clothing more fashionable again... haha. We have all sorts here, even chainmail and body armour. But I don't have one myself, it is pretty expensive to buy or make one. Takes a long time, if I recall.-
@sim @nerthos Chainmail can be procured pretty cheaply these days actually, what'll kill you is the shipping charges though. A full suit isn't light. You can luck out at a ren faire or the like though.
I have a coif I made myself and I wouldn't even say it was hard or particularly time-consuming, I just can't do manual work with my hands that is physically demanding, for long periods of time, because of how my right arm is jacked up.-
@maiyannah It's cheap, yeah, the worst part of it is sealing the loops. But as I said to @sim it takes loads of time. There's the option of buying it though for a few hundreds, cheaper if you can pick it up at the workshop. A full suit can be anywhere from 20kg to 50 depending on how big you are and the type of mail you're using, and more with the gamberson under it and neck and shoulder plates, helm, and weapons that were used with it. Modern plate armor can be as light as 25kg for an entire set for a man, for a somewhat light set that won't stop an axe but won't have issues with cutting weapons. The only issue with plate is that it has to be carefully measured and built for your exact body shape, and gaining or losing weight can make it really uncomfortable. It's actually a good example regarding the whole custom made clothing topic from earlier, as well fitting plate is comfortable but even a cm or two out of place can make it hell to wear.
Friday, 30-Dec-16 14:23:53 UTC from web-
@nerthos @sim You're not paying so much for it being complex or difficult to make, as much as you are paying for something made to an exacting specification where the maker has to be very meticulously detailed, yeah.
This goes for both, honestly, well-made chainmail doesn't impede movement much at all except in the hands as goes without saying (if you have chain mitts) but if it's not made well or is poorly fitted it gets very restrictive very quickly.
It's just a lot easier to mess up platemail (the tolerances are very small before it starts restricting you) than it is chain.-
@maiyannah Exactly. And you have to also know how to wear it, I've seen pictures of people wearing chainmail coats without any sort of belt holding it to the torso or anything, which is extremely exhausting on the shoulders. the only impediment for chainmail is the weight and obviously the gloves.
Friday, 30-Dec-16 14:30:16 UTC from web-
@nerthos People were always surprised when I moonlit as a HEMA instructors (years ago before that knee what I no longer really have got cherryed up) that we gave as much instruction on the wearing and movement in armour as we did actual weapons training. But if you read arms manuals from the late medieval period which we have preserved and also the Renaissance, it was considered just as important as actual weapons skill, and with good reason. A more mobile opponent is a more dangerous opponent.
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@maiyannah Pretty much. It's the same nowadays really, with boot camps teaching how to properly strap on and wear the gear, and having trekking sessions in full gear as part of training so the soldier knows how to move properly in it. If you're not wearing armor properly you might as well just put on cloth armor, otherwise it'll be more of a disvantage than anything.
Friday, 30-Dec-16 14:38:01 UTC from web
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@maiyannah @nerthos
Tell me about it... there is nothing light about a full suit of chainmail. But I think that also helps with building up the muscles for combat. Because you have to carry so much every day. Although for the amount of time it takes and expenses, I was thinking more along the lines of full armour itself.-
@sim @nerthos Honestly, while stuff like that is heavy, it's distributed evenly across the body, so it won't feel heavy, unless it's poorly made (such as by having plates of different thickness at different points, or chainmail that "bunches up")
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@maiyannah @nerthos
Fair point. Although I think it is still heavy in my arms because I'm not very strong. Don't think I would want to move it about too much.-
@sim @maiyannah To be fair it does feel much heavier when trying to carry it on the arms than wearing it.
Friday, 30-Dec-16 14:50:47 UTC from web
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@sim Well it's part of combat conditioning. Then again by the time most people were able to afford chainmail they had fought for years wearing gambersons and carrying spears and shields, as well as digging fortifications and other war chores that made them strong enough for it. Not to mention most were conscripted from farm work, and the ones that didn't were generally nobles that had trainers at their states.
Friday, 30-Dec-16 14:32:28 UTC from web-
@nerthos
Good point... they probably didn't need the same conditioning by that point since they would already be strong enough to wear it alongside everything else required.-
@sim Most jobs implied moving around timber, stone, cattle or produce, doing a lot of lifting, using hand tools, tilling ground, and the like, so people weren't particularly weak unless sick.
Friday, 30-Dec-16 14:57:25 UTC from web-
@nerthos
Yeah. Nothing quite like today... where it isn't about strength as much for many people. Don't all need it like we used to.-
@sim The existence of gyms all around is proof enough of this. You won't really see much of that in a rural area, and most young people will be fit anyway due to work and spending loads of time walking, running and climbing.
Friday, 30-Dec-16 15:15:02 UTC from web-
@nerthos
Pretty much, unless they are as lazy as me. I stay in doors a lot more. Plus I think that gyms work against our natural desire to conserve energy unless we are expending it to do something productive for ourselves, like getting food to eat.-
@sim @nerthos gyms make sense if you are trying to keep that ability up for some moment in the future
...but even in the most apocalyptic scenario, I'll still probably be an advisor type more than an action man type. Or joyfully dead.-
@eris @nerthos
Yeah... I think that weight training at the gym makes sense, but not so much using treadmills unless the weather is bad. Much better to push yourself to go outside for a run or quick walk in nature... you'll also pick up other skills you may need because you're in the natural environment out in the countryside.
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@sim Honestly they're not necessary as long as you move a certain minimum and have a decent enough metabolism. They're just useful if you want to reach a certain point.
Friday, 30-Dec-16 16:09:22 UTC from web-
@nerthos
This is true. Maybe they help you to reach that goal quicker, if you do the exercises properly for that.-
@sim The most useful part of gyms is that there's bodybuilding experts in them (or should be) that'll lay out a proper regime and diet for what you want to reach so youll get there as fast as possible and as safely as possible. Exercise without knowing what you're doing can be really bad.
Friday, 30-Dec-16 16:14:22 UTC from web-
@nerthos
Yeah, having the expertise is helpful there. I think that is something that I lack.-
@sim It's not an issue if you're doing light exercise, but any demanding regime should be checked by an expert first.
Friday, 30-Dec-16 16:27:06 UTC from web-
@nerthos
I would agree... best to take things slowly, unless you have an expert who can keep an eye on your exercise regime and diet.
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@sim Chainmail is more annoying to make. Plate used to be much harder and expensive in medieval times, but that's because the smith had to shape the plates from raw material. Nowadays you can buy sheets of whatever type of steel you want, usually in 1x2m plates, and cut it with an angle grinder or whatever, making it much easier to work. Chainmail requires much less fitting though, so it's easier to make a functional set, but it also takes incredible amounts of time, even with the proper machinery. Even more so if you're using a steel that'll be able to endure the strain of combat, and welding together the ends of the loops. Aesthetical chainmail is easier but still takes way too long to make. In general I prefer plate with chainmail (which is also much heavier than plate) for critical joints, and scale over leather for skirts, semi-rigid areas and extra layering.
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@sim Then again, you can totally get away with wearing medieval-inspired clothes nowadays, even with bits of plate, scale, mail or brigandine, as long as you keep composture. That goes for everything really, as long as you don't make yourself look awkward no one will mind.
Friday, 30-Dec-16 14:18:58 UTC from web-
@nerthos
Pretty much. Over here, we might not be able to buy guns, but I do like that we can wear armour still. I don't recall anything against that. Then again, if anything looks awkward... then people will notice. Otherwise I don't think people care.-
@sim Well there's not much of a point in outlawing armor, both because it's archaic so most people won't use it anyway despite combat benefits, and because it's not particularly useful in doing damage, and there's nothing illegal in being able to soak up damage. You don't step on anyone's rights by making yourself more resistant.
Friday, 30-Dec-16 14:39:45 UTC from web-
@nerthos
True... but it does help to be prepared for that, by having your own suit of armour. Not that it will get you away from bullets, but then again... we do have bullet-proof vests to help there now. Probably won't ever need to use it, but it still looks cool. I don't think our governments care about our rights.-
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@maiyannah @nerthos
I like your way of thinking here. It looks medieval, and protects you from certain bullets. It would be enough to throw someone off.-
@sim Well, the looks are a side thing, I was going for something that offered the most protection possible without going into power armor territoty. The most exposed areas in a firefight as long as you try to stay in cover are head, shoulders, chest, and part of the arm and leg, so those need heavier protection. It's pointless to try to build something to stand high powered rifles and the like as even if it didn't pierce the armor, the impact would still break your bones. The rest of the armor is more than enough to stop knives, clubs, axes and small arms fire, which is what you'd face if fighting a criminal. It's what I'd equip a crime-fighting force with, and want to build for myself eventually.
Friday, 30-Dec-16 15:44:56 UTC from web-
@nerthos
That sounded like a good idea to me as well. It's good to find something that offers the most protection. I don't think you'll come across the high powered rifles as much, and in those cases you will probably want to be able to flee it... so you'll want speed rather than being held back by heavy armour.-
@sim Yeah, against heavy ordinance all you can do is hide out of reach/sight, and wait for armored vehicles to arrive, or send a few guys with light armor and camouflage to spot and take down the shooter. A frontal approach is plain stupid, and even then, that kind of weapon is only owned by the military and certain crimelords in most countries.
Friday, 30-Dec-16 16:11:27 UTC from web-
@nerthos
Yeah, that sounds like the best idea there. I certainly don't like the idea of taking my chances against one of those in just armour.
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@sim Well my idea for modern armor is bulletproof undersuit in place of the gamberson, some padding, and plate on top. For heavier protection, ceramic plates attached to the outside of the breast and shoulder plates, upper leg, and helmet. Kevlar fabrics are great against small arms fire and the like, but useless against axes, machetes and all that. Plate on the other hand is great against bladed and blunt weapons but useless against bullets. And ceramic plates while they shatter offer great protection from higher caliber fire until they break, but since if you'll be fired at repeatedly with high caliber weapons you're dead anyway, plates that'll stop a bullet or two are more than enough. Say saving you from a .45 round or two, as you won't be shot at with anything bigger if fighting civilians in most places.
Friday, 30-Dec-16 15:06:12 UTC from web-
@nerthos @sim If you have the money, special alloys or specially treated steel in place of normal plates will greatly increase survivavility, despite needing more complex machinery to make.
Friday, 30-Dec-16 15:08:16 UTC from web
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@maiyannah @sim Tailored clothes are always better since they're made specifically for your body shape, and you can also often get a better or equal price to a store bought item if you buy the fabric on your own and take it to a tailor or seamstress. I'm thinking of tailoring myself some dressing shirts as I have long arms but also an athletic torso so many shirts end up being baggy on the chest if I get a number that fits my arms, and I prefer somewhat shape-following clothes. While I'm in my 20s and can flaunt my physical state I'd much rather do it, straight cut shirts will have their turn when I'm in my 50s.
Friday, 30-Dec-16 13:01:42 UTC from web-
@nerthos @sim A lot of tops don't fit me too terribly great because I'm cherrying tiny to begin with, but I have broad shoulders for a woman (of my size to boot) to they end up tight around the chest otherwise, something that gets doubly problematic since I'm not exactly flat-chested.
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@maiyannah Mass-produced clothes tend to be weird fitting, especially if produced by a different race with a different average body shape.
Friday, 30-Dec-16 13:56:07 UTC from web-
@nerthos I'm 4-foot-8, so finding clothes (that aren't meant for kids anyways) is dodgy enough to begin with..
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@maiyannah Ha, my girlfriend is short too, but hey, I know how to sew! so I guess I'll be doing a lot of fitting her clothes. My mother used to sew her own, and my great grandmother I think? who was Spanish and really liked high society attire, having been born at the end of the XIX century or very beginning of the XX, would sew her own dresses to her taste with lots of detail and always looked like she came out of some court, so all the other women envied her.
Friday, 30-Dec-16 14:01:18 UTC from web-
@nerthos I can do some basic things, like put on a button or sew a repair patch, but that's about it. I'm no seamstress. Still good to know how to do simple repairs though.
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@maiyannah Oh, sure, that's something that everyone should know how to do, despite how many ignore it. I'm skilled enough to make my own clothes but don't have enough practice yet to go for anything terribly complex.
Friday, 30-Dec-16 14:03:47 UTC from web
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@maiyannah Yeah, I doubt they carry those sizes in normal shops. At that height I imagine you're looking at specialty shops for little people.
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@verius Most women's stores will carry XS/XXS stuff that works but the actual selection of available stuff is very basic to say the least.
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@verius Actually, I've had a lot more luck with men's sizing for anything than I have with women's, in terms of things that comfortably fit me.
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@maiyannah That's surprising given the general shape difference. But I guess if you have generally loose clothing the difference in body shape may not matter all that much and it's less annoying on the skin to boot.
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@verius If you get "slim" mens tops, but in a size up from what I normally wear (which really varies greatly because clothing size is inconsistent), it actually mostly works out. Sometimes maybe not button it all the way up, but oh well. I have cleavage now after the estrogen treatments, I may as well show it off. (something something male gaze something)
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@sim Well, there's robes that fit a male body and are dress-like. And as you said, anything can be custom made to look good. I'm prone to long coats and... whatever the spanish "faldones" is called in english, the side skirts on medieval or riding clothes? for warmth of the upper leg and protection from weeds and the like. It's mostly a matter of making the cuts and shapes fit the body they'll go on. That's why a normal dress would look stupid on a guy, as you pointed out, they're designed to accentuate female shapes. Dresses have enourmous practical value in hot areas though, like Spain. They let an air current and can be easily pulled up to cross streams or whatever, something you can't do with pants.
Friday, 30-Dec-16 12:57:22 UTC from web-
@nerthos
Interesting... you're right, it would be more practical in the summer sun, and for streams. But it's not like you can't fold up some trousers which helps for the river aspect. I suppose there was a good reason to have dresses made at one point. Just not so practical for a lot of work we have now. Like I said, you just need to make a dress that fits your body instead, and it won't look stupid.-
@sim Oh, sure. In urban areas pants and shirts are more practical. Same with the tunics used in the ancient middle east, nowadays they'd be ridiculous, but back then they were amazing as they'd keep you safe from the sun and dirt, but could be folded into a diaper-looking thing to work or fight, hence why in biblical drawings people are usually wearing those silly looking diapers.
Friday, 30-Dec-16 13:58:05 UTC from web-
@nerthos
Yeah. One thing is certain, clothing used to be more customisable because you had to tie or button things up rather than having it all in one go for trousers. For some styles in any case.-
@sim And then you have XVIII and XIX century male trousers that required men to get a loop on their foreskin to tie it to a side as they were incredibly tight and showing a bulge was considered in bad taste. Fashion is a weird thing.
But elastic fabrics certainly allowed for a lot of slacking off.Friday, 30-Dec-16 14:06:01 UTC from web-
@nerthos
Fashion is weird. Just look at all the funny hats people used to wear, and consider fashionable. We think of brands in this way, but they used to show wealth in colours, and how much ornamentation or buttons you could afford. Even how long and pointed the front of the shoe could be. Fashion really was a statement about your class and wealth, and you weren't to go beyond your class. Elastic fabrics have allowed for slacking off... most of my clothing is baggy now, which means more comfort for me. But it doesn't exactly make me more appealing. Haha.-
@sim Yeah, intense colours or deep blacks were expensive to make, and thus showed status. Nowadays in most cases clothes don't display the detail and quality that they used to, and people don't care about doing it. Now they just buy brands for inflated prices when they could get the same much, much cheaper at a tailor.
I don't like baggy clothes as they not only look unflattering, in general they're cumbersome for me. Since they're baggy you have material haging everywhere and that messes with instinctual perception of where the body ends when tyring to move anywhere tight.Friday, 30-Dec-16 14:28:06 UTC from web-
@nerthos
It's a shame that things have fallen in that regard... but I suppose we were only really talking about the very wealthy. The poor would wear whatever they could afford to.
I don't think I'd wear trousers that were too baggy, but for shirts I have. I don't like clothes that are too tight around my body, especially when the fabric is itchy and clings to my skin. I suppose it makes sense, it's not like I really move through tight spaces so that isn't the concern for me.-
@sim To me anything that sticks out can be an annoyance, I've lost count of how many times I've had something I had in my pocket crash against a doorframe, but then again I'm somewhat feline in that regard so I tend to move quickly and fitting as snugly as possible whenever that gains a few seconds.
As for the former point, yeah, people would get what they could or often sew their own clothes, which was honestly the norm until industrialization, and was common at low to middle class homes in many countries until the mid XX century. But nowadays manufacturing is easy and unexpensive, so honestly there's no excuse for people not to want nice looking clothes.Friday, 30-Dec-16 14:49:40 UTC from web-
@nerthos
It makes sense, especially when you are quick on your feet and know your body but forget the stuff that sticks out. I have trouble when I need to carry things like that... it is a pain trying to squeeze by other people... it can be a pain when there is plenty of space around you, but they still decide to bash/push by close to you. I'm usually slow... slow at walking, and slow at working. Even now, it has taken me hours to get to writing my story, and then some more hours to write the page that I'm still on. Partly because I'm still trying to figure out where I want to go next with it, and what I want my character to transform into. I really want the fight to be cool, but I don't know if it is.
It's possible that people do want clothes that are nice... but it's just not the nice you are thinking of. Ha. They think the clothes they wear are nice.-
@sim With writing it's always like that. Sometimes you hit inspiration and push out a bunch of pages, but it's mostly a lot of wondering and trying to figure out where to go.
I'm lazy in most things but not in movement, so I tend to try to squeeze or evade between people and walls, or stuff lying around, rather than waiting for people to move away to pass. Hence why I don't like stuff that sticks out. I don't have that much issue with people bashing or pushing since I'm big and heavy enough to in most cases respond by bashing much harder.
Regarding that last bit, haha, yeah. Many people are... aesthetically challenged. Or rather, don't have their own sense of aesthetics so they think whatever is marketed as pretty is truly good looking.Friday, 30-Dec-16 15:12:08 UTC from web-
@nerthos
Yeah... it goes much like that, but I'm probably slower in typing it out. Like I said, it takes me many hours to push a few pages out each day, and sometimes I need more information before I can do so. Handy to be able to bash back harder.
Yeah... most people don't think much of it, and just go with whatever they think looks nice without the extra information you really need to figure it out.-
@sim A good rule to not look dumb is stick to somewhat classical cut clothing, for example a man in classic jeans and a tshirt or button up shirt, or a woman in classical shoes and a discrete dress won't stand out now, ten years ago, 40 years ago, or in 20 years from now. You stick to fashion, you'll look at pics of yourself in 5 years and say "oh god hope no one has a copy of this"
Friday, 30-Dec-16 15:52:05 UTC from web-
@nerthos
Haha... oh yeah, it also depends on who you are copying. I don't like my chances with copying someone like Lady Gaga. I think it looks ridiculous now as it is.-
@sim Certainly. Copying the crazies is dumb unless you want to dress for something stage-related.
Friday, 30-Dec-16 16:12:53 UTC from web-
@nerthos
Thank god that isn't a trend for most people. Then this ridiculous idea of wearing a garbage bag dress... who comes up with such stupid ideas? Yeah... it works well for a stage-play drama and comedy.-
@sim I remember when it was a trend to wear "Fluffle Puff pants", those half-dresses that were like pants but with the crotch down to the knee and tight legs. I don't know how anyone could go out in those and not feel crippling shame.
Friday, 30-Dec-16 16:19:33 UTC from web-
@nerthos
I really don't know what those look like... probably for the best too.-
@sim https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/d9/46/99/d946994f31a51f7d7c817110b32c4032.jpg https://i.blogs.es/7c73c7/cagados/original.jpg Filter ruined it but I meant "crapped pants"
Friday, 30-Dec-16 16:44:17 UTC from web-
@nerthos
Good point... I don't know why anyone thought that was a good design for trousers. Must have been running out of ideas, and decided that anything different would do.-
@sim As I mentioned earlier, "aesthetically handicapped"
Friday, 30-Dec-16 16:47:13 UTC from web-
@nerthos
Lol... I suppose that would be the new term for it.
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@nerthos that's a great name to call those.
Friday, 30-Dec-16 16:57:53 UTC from web
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@maiyannah Fair enough. Baggy pants are even worse than shorts. I just hate how grass and everything hits against the skin when wearing shorts, and the direct sunlight, so I tend to avoid them, but baggy clothes are even more uncomfortable.
Thursday, 29-Dec-16 21:13:39 UTC from web-
@nerthos I am actually very picky about clothing in general, which is why my wardrobe consists of like ten copies of the same handful of clothes. The fibromyalgia makes me very sensitive to things like irritating textures of clothing and things like that.
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@maiyannah Well I'm the same in that regard barring the condition. I mostly own jeans, dressing shirts, and plain tshirts to wear under. Only thing that's more varied is coats and jackets.
Thursday, 29-Dec-16 21:17:33 UTC from web
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@rw My god, child, what happened to your eyes?
Thursday, 29-Dec-16 21:00:58 UTC from web-
@nerthos race mixing
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@rw Post of the week
Thursday, 29-Dec-16 21:03:12 UTC from web
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@delores In my defense my family migrated when that was still true.
Thursday, 29-Dec-16 21:01:36 UTC from web-
@nerthos i thought you were from the philippines or mexico
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@delores What makes you think I'd be from either?
Thursday, 29-Dec-16 21:03:32 UTC from web
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