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Oh wait, would the standard version be fine content wise in comparsion with Fallout 3? Ugh, I suck at deciding... >.<
Monday, 16-Jul-12 09:07:36 UTC from web-
@scribble fallout3new vegas is short fallout 3 is very long
Monday, 16-Jul-12 09:09:03 UTC from web-
@bluetearainbowdash Uh, they're both pretty much the same length, counting main quest line. If anything 3 is shorter, since there's more skippable portions to the main quest. But both have a lot of side content anyway (especially once you add in the DLCs for both), to the point that they're both long enough that a small difference doesn't matter.
Monday, 16-Jul-12 09:12:37 UTC from web-
@bitshift in fallout3 or falloutNV which one had the most DLCs
Monday, 16-Jul-12 09:14:25 UTC from web-
@bluetearainbowdash 4 for FNV, 5 for F3, but The Pitt and Operation: Anchorage were both pretty short - having played through all the DLCs of both, I'd still say they're pretty much equal in terms of length/content.
Monday, 16-Jul-12 09:16:24 UTC from web-
@bitshift I hated the Pitt. But I LOVED all the other DLCs. The judas priest references were cool though
Monday, 16-Jul-12 09:18:09 UTC from web
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@bluetearainbowdash And I personally found that the content (particularly the bits added by the DLCs) of NV was more fun than the content of 3, hence my recommendation of it. (Though obviously a lot of it comes down to personal taste by that point.)
Monday, 16-Jul-12 09:19:03 UTC from web-
@bitshift ya i have FNV i love it and you fight aliens lolol
Monday, 16-Jul-12 09:21:14 UTC from web-
@bluetearainbowdash I prefer fallout 3
Monday, 16-Jul-12 09:21:50 UTC from StatusNet iPhone-
@renovatedkitchen can fallout3 mod your weapons ?
Monday, 16-Jul-12 09:22:31 UTC from web-
@bluetearainbowdash I don't give a damn. Why is there a casino in the middle of a frickkin wasteland
Monday, 16-Jul-12 09:23:25 UTC from StatusNet iPhone-
@renovatedkitchen erm.... then why is the game call fallout New Vegas ?
Monday, 16-Jul-12 09:25:01 UTC from web-
@bluetearainbowdash that's not my point. How did a small patch of land survive through nuclear attack and radiation. I don't care what mr. House says. Radiation would have deteriorated those buildings and the heat would have melted everything. The storyline and too many caps and just silliness of NV ruined it for me.
Monday, 16-Jul-12 09:27:22 UTC from StatusNet iPhone-
@renovatedkitchen you can fight aliens in NV lololol
Monday, 16-Jul-12 09:28:36 UTC from web
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@renovatedkitchen Because up until the bombs fell, that area _was_ Las Vegas as it exists today (give or take the Fallout-verse's history diverging from the real world in about 1940-something). And as for why it wasn't completely flattened, well, the story actually explains that, so I won't spoil it, just in case you decide to give the game another chance.
Monday, 16-Jul-12 09:28:51 UTC from web-
@bitshift i agree with you
Monday, 16-Jul-12 09:29:27 UTC from web -
@bitshift I beat it already. But it still makes no sense. The heat nuclear reactions make would have melted it away. And there is no way some anti missile things could take them out. Nuclear missiles have many warheads that come out so that they cannot be all destroyed. I really didn't like it compared to fallout 3.
Monday, 16-Jul-12 09:34:34 UTC from StatusNet iPhone-
@renovatedkitchen If they hadn't started the detonation sequence at the height where they were destroyed, there wouldn't _be_ any nuclear reactions to produce the heat you're talking about. And this is the same guy whose company produced Liberty Prime, so I see no reason why he couldn't have defenses capable of destroying the bombs, as long as they were destroyed before starting their nuclear reaction sequences.
Monday, 16-Jul-12 09:39:44 UTC from web-
@bitshift in that case, why out of all of America was this one place saved? It's just silly. Wasteland, wasteland, wasteland, CASINO! So everything around it was affected but that one spot? I don't think so. And if you read up on nuclear missiles, you will see what I mean by there are many warheads so that nothing will be able to shoot them all down because there are so many.
Monday, 16-Jul-12 09:43:20 UTC from StatusNet iPhone-
@renovatedkitchen The detonation mechanism of the warheads would still have to be resilient, though, or else they'd be very unsafe to store - that is, they wouldn't trigger just because the missile blew up before the separate warheads split out. And as for why that one place was saved, those other places weren't the home of a highly intelligent, but also highly selfish, owner of vast manufacturing capabilities. It served House's purposes to protect his city, the rest of the wasteland was of little consequence to him.
Monday, 16-Jul-12 09:48:36 UTC from web-
@bitshift I'd suggest you read up on nuclear warheads and how they work before we continue. If it exploded they would be nothing. There a lot more to a fusion reaction. And nothing. Nothing gets in the way of a thermal nuclear explosion.
Monday, 16-Jul-12 09:53:54 UTC from StatusNet iPhone-
@renovatedkitchen Done, and I still don't see anything which contradicts what I've been saying the whole time (there is a lot of time when the thermonuclear reactions have yet to be triggered, and a missile destroyed at that time would thus not produce a thermonuclear explosion). But I'm getting tired anyway, so I'm gonna sleep on this matter, and see if it seems any clearer when I awake.
Monday, 16-Jul-12 10:19:28 UTC from web-
@bitshift as the middle enters the atmosphere, the tip breaks off into a bunch of small warheads so that any anti air weaponry couldn't shoot down each one.
Monday, 16-Jul-12 16:47:27 UTC from StatusNet iPhone-
@renovatedkitchen That would be a modern nuclear weapon. From what's shown to the player through their exploration in FO3 and NV, the nuclear devices used in that series are actually remarkably primitive. The bomb in megaton, for instance, is little more advanced than the one we dropped on Hiroshima.
Monday, 16-Jul-12 17:07:15 UTC from web-
@ceruleanspark in that case, judging by the size, the explosion of that on one would have wiped the entire wasteland. My main concern is how would the strip still be standing and as perfectly as it is, when the blast cleared everything around it.
Monday, 16-Jul-12 17:10:23 UTC from StatusNet iPhone-
@renovatedkitchen You can detonate the bomb in megaton and see precisely what the yield is. The answer: Not actually all that spectacular. In terms of why everything outside the strip is a pile of crap, I'd guess that 200 years of people blowing eachother up over who gets to be in charge of it would do the job. It's basically been a warzone the entire time, with the various tribes fighting eachother over control of it.
Monday, 16-Jul-12 17:13:36 UTC from web-
@ceruleanspark But judging by the size of the bomb in megaton, it seems to be about the size of the tsar bomb if I recall it correctly. Even if say it was only a fission bomb, that explosion should have been rediculously massive. And I suppose it just bugs me that these massive building can still be intact, while everything around it has gone to waste. Although it is just a game. I guess my main point in all of this is that I prefer FO3 over NV.
Monday, 16-Jul-12 17:20:20 UTC from StatusNet iPhone-
@renovatedkitchen The bomb in Megaton isn't actually that much bigger than the Fat Man, which was 5 feet wide and 10 feet high.
Monday, 16-Jul-12 17:25:33 UTC from web-
@ceruleanspark might as well have been firecrackers then. Oh well, I still stand that I prefer FO3 to NV and will defend that. It may even have just been something happened that day that I bought NV or played it and every time I play it I remember that and either like or hate it depending on what it is that I linked it with.
Monday, 16-Jul-12 17:30:02 UTC from StatusNet iPhone
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@renovatedkitchen There's probably still elements of it that don't hold up to hard science, but it's not that implausible that he could've done it, especially given we don't know exactly how differently various branches of science developed differently in Fallout's divergent history.
Monday, 16-Jul-12 09:42:36 UTC from web
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papayas!! Will it run says my computer isnt good enough for NV
Monday, 16-Jul-12 09:13:48 UTC from web-
@purplephish20 then again... its also telling me it isnt good enough for Bastion. Which I KNOW runs perfectly
Monday, 16-Jul-12 09:14:25 UTC from web
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@mrconventrix size matters> tsar bomb vs little boy.
Monday, 16-Jul-12 17:31:13 UTC from StatusNet iPhone -
@mrconventrix for me, add to it that caps were harder to get which made it more realistic.
Monday, 16-Jul-12 17:32:01 UTC from StatusNet iPhone -
@mrconventrix I am more afraid of roman candles than a fat man
Monday, 16-Jul-12 17:34:47 UTC from StatusNet iPhone -
@mrconventrix screw realism, we have laser guns
Monday, 16-Jul-12 17:37:19 UTC from web -
@mrconventrix I suppose a real wasteland wouldn't be fun
Monday, 16-Jul-12 17:39:14 UTC from StatusNet iPhone -
@mrconventrix *shoots a roman candle at you*
Monday, 16-Jul-12 17:42:48 UTC from StatusNet iPhone -
@mrconventrix This. Just. Got. Real.
Monday, 16-Jul-12 17:46:44 UTC from StatusNet iPhone -
@mrconventrix It's super effective.
Monday, 16-Jul-12 17:51:01 UTC from StatusNet iPhone
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