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@pettter @hector @why @dtluna The GPL was not formulated to "fight copyright"; it was written to use copyright in a way that preserved freedom.
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@dolus @pettter @why @dtluna I know that, I'm perfectly aware that the GPL depends on copyright, and that does not change my view that copyright itself is harmful.
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@hector @pettter @why @dtluna Which you base on what exactly? Copyright can be abused like any other set of laws, sure, but it can also be used to benefit society with more works of art and scientific advances.
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@dolus @pettter @why @dtluna you keep repeating the _ostensible_ purpose of copyright, as a social contract with creators, but where is the evidence that it actually has led to an explosion of creativity? There is no evidence because it's false. Copyright has led only to the suppression of small artists and others by large corporate interests and governments.
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@hector @why @pettter @dolus @dtluna
The evidence is before the corporate interests made copyright over 9000 years. Disney is great evidence that it leads to explosion of creativity. Public Domain works fueled the companies wallets, but also their creative side. If the law wasn't insane, with around 5 years copyright, Disney could have profited off of releases and then after a cycle others could as well.
There's also nothing wrong with profiting from creativity. Forever long copyright is harmful, but 0 is ridiculous.
This whole model of having 0 protections on cultural works would mean that no one could realistically be anything other than a producer of goods, food, or services.-
@rw @dtluna @dolus @why @hector @pettter
Disney is great evidence of the absence of creativity. To this day, they vacuum the market for folk tales, create derivatives, then lock in the market for eternity for that particular story.-
@clacke @hector @rw @pettter @why @dtluna That's true of the current Disney, but @rw is right if we're talking about the early days of the company.
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@dolus @dtluna @rw @why @hector @pettter You mean, before they started lobbying for ever-increasing copyright terms.
Just like how Microsoft was against software patents right up until the point where they were one of the largest holders. Then it was strangling small actors, now it encourages innovation.
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