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!Glitch The time it takes to learn a skill is easy to calculate, wow. It's basically `base_time × upgrade_bonus × brain_penalty`. Base_time is the time it takes to learn the skill, in seconds. Upgrade_bonus is any bonus you get to learning time from upgrade cards, and, brain_penalty is a 5% multiplicitive penalty for each skill over your brain capacity.
Monday, 20-Aug-12 08:03:40 UTC from web-
@purple !Glitch So basically, if I were to try and learn Bubble Tuning now (base learn time of 30m), having 37 skills already learned, 2 being learned, a brain cap of 33 and having a "Gathering Learning Speed II" Upgrade card (-5%) it should take.. `(30×60)×(0.95)×(1.05^(37+2/33))` which equals ~2291.56, which is about 38m and 12s rounded. Looking at Glitch's skills page, this is correct.
Monday, 20-Aug-12 08:04:08 UTC from web-
@purple I am SUCH a nerd.
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@purple Oops, I made a mistake. It's suppose to be `(30×60)×(0.95)×(1.05^(37+2-33))` heh.
Monday, 20-Aug-12 08:07:15 UTC from web-
@purple This game makes you do decimals and powers in calculations? WHY WOULD YOU WANT TO PLAY THAT
Monday, 20-Aug-12 08:08:44 UTC from StatusNet Android-
@anarchycarcino Actually, all that's done behind the scenes for you. I just like knowing how stuff works. :p
Monday, 20-Aug-12 08:09:15 UTC from web-
Monday, 20-Aug-12 08:10:39 UTC from StatusNet Android
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@anarchycarcino Yeah normally you just see this: http://i.imgur.com/IVwOn.png But I'm a total nerd and wanted to figure out how it got all those numbers, so I went and pulled out MY AMAZING MATH SKILLS on it.
Monday, 20-Aug-12 08:12:37 UTC from web-
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@anarchycarcino You figured this out, when. :p
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@anarchycarcino Slooow. ;p
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@anarchycarcino Bill?
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@anarchycarcino http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/upload/7/74/Pok%C3%A9RadarShinyProbability.png pokemon, remember?
Monday, 20-Aug-12 08:28:35 UTC from web-
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@anarchycarcino the Pokeradar formula. Gen 4.
Monday, 20-Aug-12 08:36:36 UTC from web-
Monday, 20-Aug-12 08:37:06 UTC from web
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@anarchycarcino I did that thing EVERY TIME I was trying to get a shiny just out of curiousity.
Monday, 20-Aug-12 08:38:08 UTC from web-
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@abigpony In Gold and Silver it was based on certain bits within each pokemon's genetic stat. There was no variable iirc.
Monday, 20-Aug-12 08:36:10 UTC from web-
@pony The breeding formula? In G2, it was random, but after that, there were certain formulas.
Monday, 20-Aug-12 08:37:39 UTC from web-
@abigpony oh I thought I was responding to a formula that determined whether a pokemon was shiny in the wild.
Monday, 20-Aug-12 08:38:36 UTC from web-
@pony Oh, that's always been a certain percentage. I believe it was a 0.0001% chance until Gen 4 where it was reduced to 0.001% I believe. Don't quote me on that, but I know G4 increased the chances.
Monday, 20-Aug-12 08:39:52 UTC from web-
Monday, 20-Aug-12 08:40:57 UTC from web
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@abigpony I'm pretty sure G4 didn't increase the chances actually. It's always been a 8/65535 chance or something.
Monday, 20-Aug-12 08:45:45 UTC from web-
@purple No, I'm certain G4 increased it. I don't know by how much, but I know it was by quite a bit considering how low that is.
Monday, 20-Aug-12 08:46:44 UTC from web-
@abigpony The wild shiny chance has stayed the same. Pokeradar uses a completely different formula that makes it like 9021301x easier to get one, and breeding with a foreign Pokemon increases the chance by 4x (but still uses the base wild-shiny formula.)
Monday, 20-Aug-12 08:48:17 UTC from web-
@purple Well I know pokeradar made it insanely easy and I know breeding with foreigns makes is a bit easier, but the wild chance was increased. I remember there being alot of butthurt among the community for it.
Monday, 20-Aug-12 08:49:28 UTC from web-
@abigpony Hm, I will admit I've not done any research on it changing. But I'm pretty sure it hasn't and that the only thing that changed it was the Pokeradar. xD To the googlenator!
Monday, 20-Aug-12 08:50:45 UTC from web
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@purple @abigpony Is there no way to trade pokemon between G2 and G3? That makes me sad and I keep wishing it weren't true.
Monday, 20-Aug-12 08:48:01 UTC from web-
@pony I remember there being a way. Pal park?
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@pony I.. am actually not sure. I know in G2, there was the time machine, but I haven't play G3 since it came out practically, so I don't remember if that was in there.
Monday, 20-Aug-12 08:50:09 UTC from web-
@abigpony @purple I ask because I love playing with glitches in G1 and there's one that allows a player to alter every bit of a pokemon's data so that you can create a truly max-stat pokemon of any species and type (and with any trainer number for that matter).
Monday, 20-Aug-12 08:53:39 UTC from web-
@pony I don't do that, see? I play the games legit.
Monday, 20-Aug-12 08:55:35 UTC from web-
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@abigpony @purple Yep, just looked it up. It's exactly what I said. I even remembered the formula correctly for wild shinies!
Monday, 20-Aug-12 08:53:45 UTC from web-
@purple Go die a horribly painful death.
Monday, 20-Aug-12 08:55:11 UTC from web-
@abigpony D:. Also thank you. Thanks to you I found a totally awesome online Pokemon battle simulator. xD
Monday, 20-Aug-12 08:58:22 UTC from web-
@purple Oh man, this thing is open source too. HEY RDN WHO WANTS TO KICK MY FLANK AT POKEMANS!? (Jk. Eff you all ;_;)
Monday, 20-Aug-12 09:08:21 UTC from web-
@purple if we played Pokemon Stadium, you'd be down like *crash* *Bam* *Boom*
Monday, 20-Aug-12 09:11:37 UTC from web
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@abigpony shiny was basically random in G2, but there was logic behind it still. I can create shiny pokemon through glitches given a G1 cartridge, for example.
Monday, 20-Aug-12 08:39:54 UTC from web-
Monday, 20-Aug-12 08:40:16 UTC from web
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@pony And importing from japanese ports of the games to english ports or vice versa gave a MAJOR increased chance.
Monday, 20-Aug-12 08:40:51 UTC from web-
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@pony Why would pony restrict pokermon? G4 is worst gen.
Monday, 20-Aug-12 08:43:14 UTC from web-
@abigpony My every waking hour is consumed by pony art and videos and fics, and I don't foresee getting tired of it, though, maybe if I could somehow incorporate ponies into my G2-4 pokemon gameplay...
Monday, 20-Aug-12 08:45:47 UTC from web-
@pony You should really lay off the pony
Monday, 20-Aug-12 08:47:09 UTC from web
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