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Learned a new word/concept today https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phatic_expression
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@moonman It comes as no surprise that the Japanese have an entire branch of their language dedicated to it
Sunday, 22-May-16 13:15:52 UTC from web-
@nerthos I use these a lot in Engish, and I've found over time that people are becoming less able to recognize their use and take them literally. It's very frustrating.
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@moonman Weird, I can't see @nerthos's original notice in this thread, even though I don't have any 'inactive' subscriptions anymore.
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@takegrapeakenji @nerthos just to be clear, are you following him?
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@nerthos @takepapayaakenji also, sometimes notices take several seconds to show up while the server pulls them, some server are really slow.
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@takecherryakenji @nerthos it should be in your regular following feed at least, then. See if it's there, maybe the server stitched the conversation wrong.
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@moonman Yep. RDN has been acting up since yesterday though so it might be related to that. @ceruleanspark has been trying to figure out why the local timeline auto updater has ceased working
Sunday, 22-May-16 13:48:11 UTC from web-
@nerthos @ceruleanspark OK, so maybe RDN just never sent the salmon slap to @takebatcaveakenji 's instance.
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@moonman @nerthos @ceruleanspark Federation is hard.
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@takemangoakenji @nerthos @ceruleanspark let's go shopping https://batcaveposter.club/attachment/80378
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@takeappleakenji It sure is. I'll take fixing physical things over digital things any day.
Sunday, 22-May-16 13:53:14 UTC from web
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@moonman Oh, I feel you. I have had experiences like that to an extreme degree, like a time I was hitting on a girl on facebook and she literally couldn't understand me (she was a year or two younger than me, so she should have). People are forgetting how to use their languages.
Sunday, 22-May-16 13:49:53 UTC from web-
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@moonman Do tell
Sunday, 22-May-16 13:51:13 UTC from web-
@nerthos transactional dialog is forgotten because politeness is devalued. Politeness is supposed to grease skids for communication, reduce embarrassment between speakers "little white lies" for instance. Also, interaction with computers, electronic devices is making people more explicit and terse, context-switching back to human-talk is hard and seems unnecessary sometimes, have to consciously remember it has a purpose.
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@moonman Oh, I completely agree. The importance of protocol is being more and more forgotten. Right now it's a semi-good thing, as having a big portion of the population being bad at wordplay means it's easy to convince them of stuff, but any more involution and they'll plain won't understand. Also the issue with having to use machine-talk is also true. It's one of the reasons I don't like coding, since it forces you to make your brain think in a plain, primitive way, as opposed to the complex and poetic way social communication has
Sunday, 22-May-16 13:59:11 UTC from web-
@nerthos I try to mitigate this by reading old books before language deteriorated. As recently as the 1980's can do.
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@moonman I do quite a bit of reading too. My house is a library anyway, my father invested thousands on book collections during the 90s (funnily enough, they don't have much of a resale value) so I literally can't run out of reading material. Over here the decline is even more evident than in USA, if you compare the language spoken in 40s-70s movies made in Argentina with the language spoken today, it's like comparing crystal to bubbly ice.
Sunday, 22-May-16 14:07:35 UTC from web
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@moonman Not a fan of when people take those expressions literally either, they're missing the point of conversation altogether, or social decency as you said, politeness is devalued.
Sunday, 22-May-16 14:18:04 UTC from web
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