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@comradeconventrix but I think all the time and can't stop. Literally, it's my M.O. Not saying I'm superintelligent; I just constantly think and can't turn it off.
Wednesday, 04-Jul-12 08:02:42 UTC from web-
@widget I never knew, far as I was concerned it's the human being's natural state.
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@widget Who uses it as a derogatory term is proof enough of how valid it is as one.
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@widget it's moreso a sign of being antisocial I believe. A shot at your sense of confidence in yourself. if you don't have the confidence to go out and get it done, don't have the drive, then you're an antisocial wuss. I don't think the actual act of being a virgin is a crime, though.
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@widget The typical logic that goes through such a person's head is as follows: 1) everyone wants to have sex 2) therefore everyone is trying to have sex 3) therefore everyone who hasn't had any yet must have something wrong with them for there to be no one that wants to have sex with them. Reality is of course far more complicated than this, but such people often have very simplistic worldviews.
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@comradeconventrix Or the guy is just not promiscuous, and can control his instincts.
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@toksyuryel Indeed.
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@comradeconventrix You mess with one of us you mess with all of us.
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@toksyuryel it's funny but I never felt bad being a virgin; I only felt bad when I had my share then went through a dry spell. I felt like I was capable of performing an act, then I lost that ability. I felt more judged by others than when I was a virgin. "why doesn't he have a girlfriend?" "why can't he just find someone?" "I thought ANYONE could get a one night stand.." etc. Hence why I am trying to get out there more often and be more social.
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@crusader8 I am quite fine with being a virgin. There's only a very small handful of people I'd be comfortable with and none of 'em live near me.
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@crusader8 Fun thing is, it's been decades since reproduction for the sole purpose of reproduction was good for humanity.
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@toksyuryel I didn't lose mine till this year...always got ridiculed in the military. Was never fun >_>
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@crusader8 So now you're living based on others' expectations as opposed to your own. Boy, you're sure defying those jerks who made fun of you for being a virgin.
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@communistprime *hugs*
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@comradeconventrix Well I am almost in Military
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@dixie Define almost.
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@toksyuryel good point! You should have good reason to have lay with a lady or man. No need to rush or jump into things when you're not comfortable or ready.
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@nerthos try a couple centuries lol
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@crusader8 Until ~1940 it was somewhat useful.
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@comradeconventrix No, I thought I told you there were two problems - 1) Monday night was a bad night to do this, crowd wise 2) I was worried sick about you so I was on my phone trying to see what was going on and throw in my share of words
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@crusader8 My philosophy is that it should only be between people who love eachother, as that's the only time it actually feels good anyway.
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@crusader8 You know, sex is a great thing but it isn't the most important thing in life - people make such a commotion about it but that's just stupid. I don't care if you are a virgin or do it all the time *shrugs*
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@abigpony no, the "hence why" was in relation to feeling like I lost something, not the random quotes that I never actually heard thrown in the middle completely for effect.
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@crusader8 yeah, you lost self-confidence. The bullies are winning. It's alright to admit it.
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@thatonepony speaking from experience, sex was so much better for me when I was in love with this one girl long time ago than it was when I wasn't in love.
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@abigpony confidence has nothing to do with my acute awareness of what I am or not capable of. I never liked the common way the term confidence is used because when people use the word in this context they mean you're supposed to act like you'll succeed when you're not actually certain, and that acting will actually create the certainty of success. So it's like a catch 22, and also doesn't take into account more objective self-appraisals. Also, aren't you still in high school? It's easier to be confident when you don't know your limits. Aka, it's easy for high schoolers to act or feel confident or talk about it recklessly.
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@thatonepony oh yeah. Physically, yes.
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@crusader8 *pfft* bashing high schoolers thinking they have the inability to act mature. i just graduated, but I suppose I'd still be classified with them. When i use the term "confidence" in this context, I use it to stress the idea of believing in oneself as oneself is concerned. To put up a false front (as I believe you seem to be proposing) is not at all what I'm talking about, though it'd fall under one's ability to act out of character and remain strong in one's will jointly. In response to "acting like you'll succeed": yes, a positive approach makes you feel better about yourself and your actions.
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@comradeconventrix Learn your history son.
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@comradeconventrix Alright so wanna agree to disagree?
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@comradeconventrix it's all cool. Just curious, since I didn't think about this. Every girl I've met and approached was in a group of familiar friends and acquaintances. I've never actually approached a complete stranger to try to talk to them before. Since pickup lines are for creeps, I actually have no idea what to say without putting the lady on guard. #ignorant
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@crusader8 "Get on ze van"
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@comradeconventrix Tsk tsk tsk.
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@abigpony Not about maturity, it's about experience. To confuse the two would be folly. High schoolers can be mature. There's a big gap in understanding that comes from experience. This is why all dating advice sounds foreign to me, because a lot of it I've never tried or been in the situation but those who give the advice do it with ease all the time.
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@comradeconventrix Alright so wanna agree to disagree?
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@crusader8 You know, I have the same problem, just with guys
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@comradeconventrix "Hi, I'm James, what's your name?" "Jenny" "Nice to meet you" "Have a good day" "Bye"
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@comradeconventrix that seems awkward. why would that not make the girl suddenly think "oh god he's trying to get my number/hit on me"
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@crusader8 Hey, I know that feel, man. It's all about feeling good about your own approach, man.
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@hakupony I wish you lived around here. I could introduce you to awesome guys I've met in the past several months. (one said guy is pretty much the sole reason I go to the local TGI Friday's)
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@comradeconventrix That'll only get you boring girls.
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@comradeconventrix Yeah, I did. i thought I've told you how much of a mistake it was you didn't a thousand times. You DO have military service and alot of people look highly on that when it comes to more physical labor. You should finish classes when you get back.
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@crusader8 Okay - now imagine. A girl approaches you that way, you think "Oh God, she wants my number!" Would that be a reason to feel bad?
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@comradeconventrix crap I don't remember the trick. Are you talking about when you told me to be on the lookout for particular shoes, and how you showed me the pic?
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@hakupony "I'm going to get robbed, there's probably three more behind that wall, please god make it STOP"
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@nerthos All girls love their shoes, man. If they don't, they're dykes anyway. It's foolproof
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@comradeconventrix If she was engaged, and had sex with you, that means she's not worth much.
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@comradeconventrix I'm afraid I'd be dangerous with that kind of confidence
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@comradeconventrix How do you have a GED, but not a high school diploma?
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@abigpony it's usually one or the other
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@hakupony I was going to presume how I'd act in that role reversal, but the only girl who ever introduced herself to me strictly in these terms had a boyfriend.
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@comradeconventrix /) final chance for us to make peace.
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@comradeconventrix Well you certainly have a bright future ahead full of tons of self-fulfillment.
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@crusader8 This is what I hate about the internet - distance exists in the real world :(
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@comradeconventrix I compliment you on your caveman rationalization
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@dixie You won't get conventrix to make peace.
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@comradeconventrix Its cool still gonna be friends with you.Night
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@pony Huh. Interesting. Would one be able to take said tests at a given time? Also, as far as I know, a GED is not a recognized certificate here.
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@abigpony I know very little about them other than what's already been said. GED is recognized and accepted by universities all over the U.S.
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@comradeconventrix Why does this seem so hard to me. I have too much chess brain - I try to look at everything twenty moves ahead and I never see the big picture
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@crusader8 Yeah - because it usually is expected that men make the first step in flirting. Just remember that women also are people with sexual desires :)
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@comradeconventrix Congratulations. Have a Nobel prize on cleverness.
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@comradeconventrix She can't hold a promise to her would-be husband. That means she's worthless.
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@comradeconventrix Should probably just kinda move this to pm's now, yeah.
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@hakupony I know both these things.
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@nerthos And THIS really is caveman rationalisation...
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@comradeconventrix I mean that businesses don't recognize it like they do a high school diploma. As far as I know, the places around here see it as nothing.
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@hakupony That's called being honest.
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@communistprime I'm honestly already bored about his tales of promiscuity.
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@comradeconventrix Funny you mention that, I STILL run into people from high school. It is always awkward, and it is always people I had awkward moments with back then.
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@nerthos It may be what you honestly think but it still is primitive as it can be.
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@pony huh.
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@hakupony Primitive is better than liar.
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@comradeconventrix high school in general was weird. kids asking for cars for their birthday... yeah strange concepts all around
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@nerthos and water is warmer as lemon. Honesty and your view on women are two completely different things.
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@hakupony It doesn't matter if it's a woman or a man, if it engages in a sexual relationship with some random person while engaged, it's a worthless individual.
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@nerthos Do you know what their relationship is like? Maybe she didn't even break their rules.
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@hakupony I honestly don't care.
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@comradeconventrix I need to find a way to get over the rejection thing. Somehow. Some way. It's the whole "based off of literally minutes I'm confident in my appraisal of you as a person who is not worth my time" is what I hear when I'm rejected. I do not know why I have this fear, but I have been going on the assumption of my past track record is to blame. It could be that I put too much stock and evaluation into who I meet or want to meet and build myself up to much, so that I fall farther when I potentially get turned down. But I'm not sure if that's completely it either, though it makes more sense.
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@comradeconventrix gawd I can't stop going on about this. I'll leave you alone forever now.
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@comradeconventrix it's funny. (almost) Everything else one learns to do growing up involves a nervous first try or two, until a series of successful rounds brings enough comfort and confidence to perform the task without worry. It seems like dating is the opposite, that we have to get comfortable with failure and expect failure. But when I fail how do I know if it's because of me or because of her? It's been previously established that even by going by certain strategies and rules I could straight-up be rejected anyway, so how can I tell if I'm making any difference doing any one thing moreso than another?
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