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  1. RedEnchilada (notice the lack of a space) RedEnchilada (notice the lack of a space)

    Ok, here's what I've gotten from all of this, and please, PLEASE correct me if I'm in any way mistaken; most of you seem to be arguing under the basis that the set of filter regexes is set in stone and inflexible. If this is not the case, I apologize for assuming. If it is, though, hear me out just this once. I'm not going to claim to speak for widget, but if you guys have any suggestions to make the wordfiilter better-suited for site use, send them our way and we'll consider them. I'm not saying it'll happen, but it's worth a shot. But we're going to have one hell of a hard time listening if your complains are peppered with "the moderation team cares more about reducing complaints than actually moderating", and other such things. I apologize for lashing out, and... hell, I'm gonna go... do... something else, I guess.

    Wednesday, 05-Sep-12 01:46:37 UTC from web
    1. RDN's Lucifer RDN's Lucifer

      @redenchilada Fair enough, now go and relax before this place kills you xD

      Wednesday, 05-Sep-12 01:47:36 UTC from web
    2. Thomas Thomas

      @redenchilada Cake??? http://ur1.ca/a47ft

      Wednesday, 05-Sep-12 01:48:16 UTC from web
    3. Scribus Scribus

      @redenchilada Take it easy, man. Feel better sson. Or soon, even. #

      Wednesday, 05-Sep-12 01:48:44 UTC from MuSTArDroid
    4. Toksyuryel Toksyuryel

      @redenchilada I've been arguing from the standpoint that a word filter has all of the same problems DRM does, in that no matter how much you try to massage it into working the way you want it to it will *always* have false positives and workarounds- the false positives will keep hitting the legitimate users, and the workarounds will keep being used by the people who want to bypass it. This causes three serious problems: first and foremost, it doesn't actually *stop* the behavior it's meant to stop; secondly, it inconveniences legitimate users when a false positive is encountered; finally, it creates a LOT of extra work for the admins as they struggle to keep up with both the false positives AND the workarounds. This sort of thing is an arms race with no end in sight. You will never find the perfect regex that blocks only the words you want and has no workarounds. That's what my argument is.

      Wednesday, 05-Sep-12 01:54:42 UTC from web
      1. RedEnchilada (notice the lack of a space) RedEnchilada (notice the lack of a space)

        @toksyuryel The workarounds are another issue entirely. The staff will still be around to keep those from becoming an issue. The false positives do worry me, though, especially with the regex setup widget currently has. I can see about asking him to drop some words and tighten it up to reduce those, but just because the occasional misfire is a possibility doesn't make the whole thing a worthless endeavor.

        Wednesday, 05-Sep-12 01:56:57 UTC from web
        1. Toksyuryel Toksyuryel

          @redenchilada I listed three reasons, the first of which is the really important one.

          Wednesday, 05-Sep-12 01:59:40 UTC from web
          1. RedEnchilada (notice the lack of a space) RedEnchilada (notice the lack of a space)

            @toksyuryel We don't have issues with people who work day and night to evade wordfilters, though. We have people who use the words naturally as part of their vocabulary and would be much less inconvenienced by the word being replaced than they would their entire post being deleted.

            Wednesday, 05-Sep-12 02:01:32 UTC from web
            1. Thomas Thomas

              @redenchilada I had that problem on my minecraft server... It is amazing the new bad words people can find...

              Wednesday, 05-Sep-12 02:03:03 UTC from web