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@snail Take your time if you want. What I don't reply to now I'll reply to whenever I'm next online.
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@sim This is why I talked about separation. The cleanest way to go about this that would enable everyone to carry own doing their thing would be to just get rid of the tag that bundles up so many countries, so that each is responsible only for their own doings.
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@sim I definitely agree, and give respect where it's due, not freely as candy on halloween.
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@snail First off: the "nuke x" thing was a joke that users I usually talk with would find amusing, I'm not actually saying "wipe out half a continent because they produce crappy music"
Our cultures are not exactly the same, hence why I'm against a catch-all term. They do have things in common, hence why I mentioned you would likely get what I'm getting at. It's why I'm perfectly fine with "Iberoamerica" which is an adequate term for the region.
Honestly, I thought you of all people, so often talking about cherryty treatment of women would sympathise with my hatred of reggaeton and also find disrespectful that it's thrown in between songs of a guy that wrote this song (link below), a man known over 50 years of musical career for his moral integrity https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cax5IACfKcw
You were the one to say I'm part of the same group. In such a case, why wouldn't I be allowed to criticize the truly disgusting expressions of a culture that in a bigger or smaller part, even if I generally detatch myself from, am a part of? Why would I be a "racist" for complaining about associating an entire continent to a music genre that boils down to hedonism, drugs, alcohol and the treatment of women as sexual objects, and was thrown in there by youtube solely because of the country I live in? as I see it, not only I'm allowed to complain about it as it concerns me, it is constructive that I do and get others in my region to reject music with that message, and value instead artistic expression that exalts respect, gentlemanly behaviour, love for one's land and culture, and cheerful disposition.
Furthermore it is the opposite of racism to ask for proper recognition of the origin of artistic works instead of treating two continents as the same thing, throwing stuff at people as advertising on the rationale of "this is what this this person will enjoy because they live in X country".
I very much would like for my country to get rid of extremely applety and problematic expressions of "culture" that demonstrate the vices listed above and move on to a more respectful, sober and less sexist heritage. -
@snail I said you could probably understand being Brazilian as you've probably been exposed to a few songs of the genre since they had a peak of popularity across all south america some years back.
I don't know what your ancestry is, and tbh it won't alter my perception of you. The mention of my genetic makeup was to point out "latino" is a ridiculous classification if you're trying to talk about someone's race as it's used to refer to criollos, castizos, mestizos, mulatos, cholos and pardos as if they were all the same thing. -
@snail How exactly is it bad to want to distinguish the culture of my family and my country from that of other countries that bleeds out towards mine? If you compare say, central Argentina with Honduras, they're two completely different countries with completely different customs and cultures, that haven't had anything in common for 200 years.
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@mangeurdenuage At some point I'm just going to change running speed
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And then one wonders where my hatred for the whole thing stems from. This is a perfect example of it.
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@snail Plus expanding on my point: "latino" isn't a race. It's used as a catch-all for like 8 different groups nowadays. Racially I'm a half-Spanish-half-German criollo if you want to go there. The term itself is extremely racist since you care about racism, and I'm definitely allowed to complain about it as I'd like, considering it concerns my country and heritage.
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@djabadu Raphael is great too. Got quite a few of his CDs somewhere among the stacks.
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@snail Again, that's my complaint. The fact that it puts everyone on the same bag just for living in America south of Mexico, even if we have little in common culturally.
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@snail I'm not. Really my only complaint with them as a group is that they call themselves "latinos" when they have little to do with actual latin culture. I dislike the categorization because it serves no purpose other than associating actual spainards like me with a culture that barely has anything to do with us. I'm not saying other groups don't have terrible stuff too, but I also don't have to put up with other groups' terrible stuff by virtue of not living where they do.
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@snail Oh, I don't mind if they listen to it in their houses or dance clubs. I mind when they blast it at full volume or throw it in between the stuff I'd like to listen to with my family. It's by no means appropiate for breakfast.
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@snail I have a deep appreciation of Spanish culture, my mother's family being from Andalucía, and my grandfather being a very good singer and guitar player. I was listening to some songs of one of the most renowned musicians from Andalucía, stuff my grandfather would sing. Youtube insisted in throwing in reggaetton in between songs as ads, which really annoyed me, as it's one of the foulest expressions of bad taste that Iberoamerica has to offer (seriously, being from Brazil yourself, if you know even a bit of Spanish you'll know what I'm talking about). I hate it because not only I'm sometimes forced to listen to it as the brutes in my country listen to it, the fact that those that make and listen to that "music" brand themselves "latinos" or "hispanic" is a great insult to the culture of the Iberic peninsula and the Latin peoples, of which I'm part of.
Any implication that musicians like Lola Flores or Manolo Escobar belong to the same culture as buffoons like Calle 13 is outright insulting. -
@snail Not really. It has nothing to do with race, I'm Argentinian myself, it's that I'd like to hear songs about nice things and my grandfather's homeland, not about manhandling women and copious consumption of alcohol and drugs.
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Imagine listening to a selection of Manolo Escobar's best songs and being interrupted with reggaeton
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After listening to youtubes at 1.25x for an entire day, real life has slown to a crawl. I can now dodge bullets.
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They're the California of the Spanish diaspora
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Seriously though nuke central America and the caribbean.
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>Talking with GF about music, about letting Spanish music play online on the tv when family was around for breakfast, and how it'd get interrupted by "latino" "music" of all things in ads in between songs
>End up going on a rant about my burning hatred of it and how I'm personally offended about that whole culture's nature being an insult to Spanish heritage
Guess I'm feeling particularly nationalistic today -
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I swear, I don't understand how she turned out half-decent considering the steaming pile of mango everything around her is
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>Mother in law's boyfriend, drunk, tries to get flirty with my girlfriend
Well guess it's time to skewer a Fluffle Puffr on a flagpole and give a Wallachian aesthetic to new jersey. -
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https://Potato Knishesposter.club/attachment/2771055 Virgin-chan is clearly more attractive.
- nerthos repeated this.
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@detectivehyde What actually happened to it?
