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  1. @gryps75 @kuro I don't think aliases work across federation yet (and it would not be simple to make them work though it would be nice).

    Friday, 20-Dec-13 10:20:03 UTC from oracle.skilledtests.com
    1. @mk That has been discussed more than once. Has some connection to new qvitter if I'm not mistaken. What do you say @Mcscx @erkanyilmaz?

      Friday, 20-Dec-13 11:37:42 UTC from quitter.se
      1. @kuro @mk if you can't sub to the !tea group on Quitter it's probably b/c there was a !tea group on identica and instances resolve to this

        Friday, 20-Dec-13 22:11:24 UTC from quitter.se
        1. @mk you should be able to sub to the Quitter !tea group after removing the _identica_ !tea group from your instance's db @erkanyilmaz @kuro

          Friday, 20-Dec-13 22:17:14 UTC from quitter.se
          1. deleting the identi.ca group in the DB here didn't help, it actually resulted then for a http 500

            Saturday, 21-Dec-13 09:41:21 UTC from oracle.skilledtests.com
            1. hmm,I've been able to join (& leave) the !tea group from opensim-chat\.eu. I suspected the reason to be the old identica group unknown there

              Saturday, 21-Dec-13 10:06:29 UTC from quitter.se
              1. well, I actually "only" deleted the identi.ca group from table user_group. probably there's some more internal reference to that group/table which needs more investigation.

                Saturday, 21-Dec-13 10:12:26 UTC from oracle.skilledtests.com
              2. I've just created a group !teatest on Quitter. If you, @mk & @lg can join this one, the problems w/ !tea must be related to its name

                Saturday, 21-Dec-13 10:19:15 UTC from quitter.se
                1. works (I also appear as member on that remote group)

                  Saturday, 21-Dec-13 10:24:05 UTC from oracle.skilledtests.com
                  1. ... and left group again (no need to be sub'd to test groups)

                    Saturday, 21-Dec-13 10:25:12 UTC from oracle.skilledtests.com
                    1. I once could reproduce subscription probs on RDN& noticed by mouse-hovering: it resolved the 'problem groups' to identica during the process

                      Saturday, 21-Dec-13 10:48:03 UTC from quitter.se
                      1. yes, I saw also before editing the DB how the q group link linked to identi.ca. Otoh: I remember @larjona joining 2 groups with same name (debian) or we have also 2 SN groups (1) (2) and people joining one of them can't join the other?

                        Saturday, 21-Dec-13 11:58:17 UTC from oracle.skilledtests.com
                        1. (1) http://micro.fragdev.com/group/statusnet (2) http://legadolibre.com.ar/group/statusnet

                          Saturday, 21-Dec-13 11:58:56 UTC from oracle.skilledtests.com
                        2. e.g. I see @bobjonkman is member of both SN groups, so perhaps something because identi.ca group doesn't exist/resolve anymore and Sn having prob with that ?

                          Saturday, 21-Dec-13 12:03:25 UTC from oracle.skilledtests.com
                          1. this can actually be tested: @lg@micro.fragdev.com 's instance is gone and then re-creating one of his old (1) groups somewhere and see if people can join that new group. (1) http://federation.skilledtests.com/List_of_federated_Statusnet_groups.html

                            Saturday, 21-Dec-13 12:18:02 UTC from oracle.skilledtests.com
                            1. if it works: it's another thing like: something wrong at quitter, something wrong at the SN instance where the user can't sub to that new group

                              Saturday, 21-Dec-13 12:18:45 UTC from oracle.skilledtests.com
                            2. re-created the !ignore group here

                              Saturday, 21-Dec-13 12:22:00 UTC from oracle.skilledtests.com
                              1. now, let's see... if a user from fragdev or another SN can join this group

                                Saturday, 21-Dec-13 12:22:47 UTC from oracle.skilledtests.com
                        3. good point!But there must be a bug in SN code. I've pasted the real new group URL but the instance still continues w/ identica group from db

                          Saturday, 21-Dec-13 12:32:22 UTC from quitter.se
                2. @mcscx joined - ends with the usual white screen (known bug) but no (other) error message! /cc @lg @erkanyilmaz

                  Saturday, 21-Dec-13 10:25:34 UTC from oracle.skilledtests.com
                3. @mcscx good thinking! :)

                  Saturday, 21-Dec-13 10:26:03 UTC from oracle.skilledtests.com
                4. @mcscx tbh I never was aware of any existing !tea group so that didin't occur to me :(

                  Saturday, 21-Dec-13 10:26:51 UTC from oracle.skilledtests.com
                  1. tbh I didn't know of an identica tea group either, I was just guessing. Identica had groups for almost everything...

                    Saturday, 21-Dec-13 10:41:58 UTC from quitter.se
                    1. @mcscx I guess I wasn't aware of people discussing tea and not yet interested as much in tea as I am now :) (just a little over a month to the anniversary of my start of being totally coffee-less)

                      Saturday, 21-Dec-13 10:47:32 UTC from oracle.skilledtests.com