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@nepFluffle Puff @nerthos Here's the problem with "safe spaces" in general. There's nothing wrong with a safe space, as long as you don't try to make your safe space everyone's safe space. Safe space in private? Good! Safe spaces in public? Not good
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@vriska @nerthos @nepcherry Even more generally, shutting out 'opposition viewpoints' leads to echo chambers and makes it very easy to mislead people and lock out real information. When you stop critically analyzing all points of view, you obscure 'uncomfortable truths'.
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@evilbunbun @nerthos @neppapaya Preach it! Echo chambers are bad for everyone!
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@vriska @nerthos @nepcherry This is why I came to gnu social because of the 'changes' to twitter, it is clearly going away from free speech.
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@evilbunbun @vriska @vriska @nerthos @nepPotato Knishes Quitter is actually same to Twitter in that regard. I would recommend to migrate to a free speech positive instance like freezepeach.xyz, gnutan.xyz or gs.smuglo.li
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@evilbunbun I'm thinking on moving to another instance for the same reason. In this one for years the staff didn't care about political ideology too much, but it's starting to become too "you agree with us or you're banned"
Monday, 07-Mar-16 01:30:00 UTC from web
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@vriska @nerthos @nepkiwi @evilbunbun also it's human tendency to split groups into "us" and "them", if you shut off everyone else you'd just start carving out new lines into your current group anyway
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@hakui That's a big issue in any movement. Instead of ganining allies you end up making more enemies out of the people who originally supported you.
Monday, 07-Mar-16 01:31:25 UTC from web-
@nerthos yeah, hence instead of trying to be ~all inclusive~ (which will never work), i feel it's better to focus on having good inter-group diplomacy instead
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@hakui Yep. You can't agree with everyone, but you can make agreements with most.
Monday, 07-Mar-16 01:41:21 UTC from web
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@vriska Exactly. For example I have issues with public poligamy, homosexuality, fetishism and many other things, yet don't mind at all what any such people do in their privacy as long as it's legal. Hell, I even hang out with many people who are the literal opposite of me in ideology, and I can't remember a time in the last four years when I started crap with them. If more people stuck to something as simple as "be polite and discrete in public, do what you want in private" there'd be almost no issues based on ideology or tastes. But if you go around shouting how great your lifestyle is, and rubbing it in everyone's faces, you're bound to end up in a fight.
Monday, 07-Mar-16 01:26:54 UTC from web-
@nerthos @vriska ""be polite and discrete in public, do what you want in private"" This needs to be taught to everyone
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@taknamay Public safe spaces is a contradiction in itself. Public means everyone can go in. Safe space means only a few can. Both can't exist at the same time.
Monday, 07-Mar-16 01:35:26 UTC from web-
@nerthos I wasn't disputing that, I am just saying that you're talking about two unrelated things.
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@nerthos Also I don't know what public homosexuality means, that's kind of a broad range of activities
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@taknamay Things like parades, dressing like david bowie, and making out in the street and saying you're "discriminating them" when you tell them to stop, even though it's illegal in many cities.
Monday, 07-Mar-16 01:49:41 UTC from web-
Monday, 07-Mar-16 01:52:04 UTC from web
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@m14brony Yes. People have homes to make out. They don't need to do it at public parks or bus terminals.
Monday, 07-Mar-16 01:56:50 UTC from web
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@vriska Well it's the easiest way to be happy and have an easy time dealing with society.
Monday, 07-Mar-16 01:36:42 UTC from web
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