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Unironical big dick obsession is the easiest way to tell a guy never had real contact with a woman's intimate parts.
Wednesday, 07-Dec-16 20:00:52 UTC from web-
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@maiyannah The thing is past a certain point it just makes sex difficult unless you're dating a pornstar
Wednesday, 07-Dec-16 20:03:22 UTC from web-
@nerthos While its not quite the same context, this is why I don't understand some women's obsession with unreasonably large apples.
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@maiyannah I don't get it either. Theoretically it should provide increased stimulation, but just for a short period until you get used to it, then you have to move onto a bigger size and so on, and then you realize you can't enjoy intimacy with a guy. It's the same idiotic curve as extreme alcoholism, drinking more and more because you get used to it until it kills you.
Wednesday, 07-Dec-16 20:08:06 UTC from web-
@nerthos Moreover every woman has a threshold where the size stops being stimulating and starts being painful.
And when it stops being painful doesn't mean it's stopped being damaging, either, which is why a lot of stuff passing as "sex ed" on tumblr and youtube is batcaveing retarded.-
@maiyannah Internet "sex ed" is one of the most stupid things there is as almost every time it's produced by people who are either ignorant in the topic or extremely degenerate.
Wednesday, 07-Dec-16 20:12:28 UTC from web-
@nerthos I kind of dont mind the idea of the latter at least? As a psychologist, I understand that if people really want to get into deviant things like BDSM or FrankerZ or whatever, you're not going to stop them, so the best thing to do is to educate them how to experiment with these things without harm to themselves. The problem is that the people actually doing these things either don't know what they're doing, as you said, or downplay the dangers of that kind of experimentation.
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@maiyannah Hence why I said "extremely degenerate", not just fetishists but also incompetent at it. I don't have anything against reasonable fetishists (keeping it to themselves and their couples, and being informed and careful) but that's for many reasons not the kind you find online.
Wednesday, 07-Dec-16 20:19:59 UTC from web-
@nerthos No, a lot of them know this stuff is harmful, they just encourage it anyways. That's what I'm saying.
Ignorance is one thing, it can be corrected with education.
Willful blindness on the other hand, is a whole other ball game.-
@maiyannah Just another type of unreasonable fetishists, those that drag others into it hiding the consequences of what they're doing. I probably expressed myself poorly but I included these too. Not to mention many of them get pleasure from dragging others into their situation by trickery.
Wednesday, 07-Dec-16 20:25:21 UTC from web-
@nerthos The latter are really what I'd call degenerates, as opposed to just fetishists. It's one thing to be enthusiastic about a particular thing because you like it, it's another to try to force other people into it when they probably don't enjoy it.
And that goes for much more in life than just sexual preferences, for that matter.-
@maiyannah Pretty much. I guess I just make the distinction at another point, when it leaves intimacy rather than when it forces others.
Wednesday, 07-Dec-16 20:28:37 UTC from web-
@nerthos Well, to the people who genuinely enjoy that stuff, that is intimacy. The problems arise when they don't but they're doing it otherwise, either to please demanding partners, or because they're made to feel they have to by social pressures.
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@maiyannah I define intimacy as "in the privacy of the couple"
Wednesday, 07-Dec-16 20:31:22 UTC from web-
@nerthos Many wouldn't, as much as I personally find "public displays of affection" that cross certain lines distasteful.
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@maiyannah That honestly just an issue with society's standards going down
Wednesday, 07-Dec-16 20:34:02 UTC from web-
@nerthos No, I don't think so. Actually, I think things have actually gotten better than they used to be (at least here, it may be different elsewhere) But I think there needs to be a realization that just because you're cool with something doesn't mean others are - on a broad scale to. A lot of LGB or trans acceptance issues for example come from people being really in the face of those whom don't like them about it. "You have to accept it or you're a bigot!" No I don't, and no they don't, kiwi off.
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@maiyannah That's part of the problem. I liked the whole "don't ask don't tell" thing regarding sex life, the best way to go about things is keeping unorthodox practices to privacy. You get to do what you like, no one has to deal with it, and everyone is happy.
Wednesday, 07-Dec-16 20:46:13 UTC from web-
@nerthos I do and I don't. You shouldn't have to feel that you have to hide it, or can't talk about it among friends. I just feel it crosses the line between acceptable and unacceptable when people push it in people's faces. Moreover, I saw first hand as I grew up how trying to FORCE people to accept lesbianism and gay men just made them more resistant to the idea, so really, it's counter-productive.
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@maiyannah Well of course you can talk things with people who you personally know are fine with it. More or less I agree with what you said, as I know that trying to enforce my super proper code of conduct would just cause the same kind of crap this caused.
Wednesday, 07-Dec-16 20:52:59 UTC from web-
@nerthos People co-exist much better when they realize personal standards are personal, and societal standards have to encompass standards that apply to the community as a whole. Unfortunately, we are seeing a rise of authoritarian-leaning people who want to impose their own personal standards on everyone the come in contact with.
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@maiyannah As an authoritarian person myself, I hate it because they give a bad name to authoritarianism.
Wednesday, 07-Dec-16 20:55:27 UTC from web-
@nerthos You really aren't, I wouldn't say. Authoritarianism isn't "just" strict adherence to personal standards, it's _defined_ by the effort to enforce it on others. You've seemed intelligent enough to know when its realistic to put forward those standards and when its unrealistic.
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@maiyannah Yeah but I lean towards attempting to create somewhat strict codes that I'd rather have everyone comply with. They're much more reasonable than what the whimsical and mentally ill authoritarians we have to deal nowadays enforce, but they're still there. While I'm all in for everyone doing what they want in private I believe in the idea of strict social norms.
Wednesday, 07-Dec-16 21:01:59 UTC from web -
@maiyannah Then again I don't think people like you would have any issues with my flavour of it. I greatly value personal freedom as long as it's strictly personal, so you'd likely have no issues whatsoever living as you want. Activists and the like though would be thoroughly miserable.
Wednesday, 07-Dec-16 21:22:16 UTC from web-
@nerthos The social compact is an important thing to enforce. Ideally, we shouldn't have to enforce it often, but problems arise when people challenge it. Sometimes this challenge is valid, such as in asserting freedom of speech or the freedom of sexual orientation, but much more often lately, people try to use that social compact as a means to shame people into making the particular moral decisions they feel are best in their personal lives.
Personal life should be private and the social compact need not apply there. That's the big sticking point for these people. They have no distinction of a private life and furthermore they do not desire one because it means giving up that control.-
@maiyannah And that's why I say they give authoritarians like me a bad name. I'd send criminals to work camps, tackle the drug problem by executing consumers, and a lot of crazy-looking stuff like that, but wouldn't go on witch hunts to make people change their private lives to fit my taste.
Wednesday, 07-Dec-16 21:31:22 UTC from web-
@nerthos The thing we need to recognize with drug rehabilitation is the people that can be rehabilitated, and those which cannot. Save those that can be saved, but don't expend the time and effort on those that refuse.
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@maiyannah In my case it's more of a "attack the weakest bond" approach to make druglords fight eachother without funding. Not humanitarian in the least, just a tactical and cold approach to it.
Wednesday, 07-Dec-16 21:34:47 UTC from web-
@nerthos Either is removing their customer base, one is just much more quick and direct. I think we can both agree that we waste a lot of time trying to rehabilitate addicts that have no interest in being rehabilitated however
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@maiyannah In that I can agree
Wednesday, 07-Dec-16 21:37:56 UTC from web-
@nerthos People who WANT out we should definitely pull out of that. apple the rest of them though, as dispassionate as that seems (and is).
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@maiyannah Eh, the ones who don't want to get out will gladly steal from their parents or sell their children for drugs, so why should we care?
Wednesday, 07-Dec-16 21:47:13 UTC from web-
@nerthos They made a choice and that choice has a set of consequences they will need to accept.
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