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  1. @yukiame @mjd re: origin of markets, please read the link I gave you, and/or provide me with links to history papers that back up your claim

    Thursday, 06-Apr-17 09:45:45 UTC from quitter.se
    1. @strypey The only substantive problem I have with your blog post is that currency-issuing gov's do not "fund the social functions" they carry out with taxes. Not one cent. They issue IOUs when they spend & cancel them when they tax. The money disappears in a puff of accountancy.

      Thursday, 06-Apr-17 10:24:47 UTC from microblog.ourcoffs.org.au
    2. @strypey There's no history required to demonstrate this, just basic double-entry bookkeeping. See "Deadly Innocent Fraud #" in http://moslereconomics.com/wp-content/powerpoints/7DIF.pdf

      Thursday, 06-Apr-17 10:28:18 UTC from microblog.ourcoffs.org.au
    3. @strypey Oh, sorry. I see. RTFA. # You were asking @yukiame. As I'm sure you know from #, markets predated nation-states, but only because local parishes functioned equivalently as sovereign governments with their own transaction-clearing procedures and so on.

      Thursday, 06-Apr-17 10:35:40 UTC from microblog.ourcoffs.org.au
      1. @strypey Of course in those days, taxes were collected in grain, and you could get a pint of mild, a pork pie, and a packet of Woodbines, and still have change for a box of matches. Aye. These were all fields when I were a lad…

        Thursday, 06-Apr-17 10:45:47 UTC from microblog.ourcoffs.org.au
        1. @mjd taxes in grain was the system that the rise of militarized states replaced using coins and markets, as described by # in 'Debt'

          Thursday, 06-Apr-17 14:52:05 UTC from quitter.se
      2. @mjd predated "nation-states" in the modern sense, yes, but not "states" in the sense of a sovereign power holding a monopoly on violence

        Thursday, 06-Apr-17 14:50:56 UTC from quitter.se