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  1. # was a mistake. https://gs.smuglo.li/attachment/395394

    Saturday, 15-Apr-17 18:30:46 UTC from gs.smuglo.li
    1. @tijagi # is never a mistake, our mistake was somewhere else

      Saturday, 15-Apr-17 19:05:07 UTC from shitposter.club
      1. @shpuld If people could know the situation in the world before being born and choose, whether they want to be born or not, Earth population would be around 10 000.

        Saturday, 15-Apr-17 19:10:47 UTC from gs.smuglo.li
        1. @tijagi #

          Saturday, 15-Apr-17 19:14:13 UTC from shitposter.club
          1. @shpuld You said
            > our mistake was somewhere else

            Saturday, 15-Apr-17 19:16:31 UTC from gs.smuglo.li
            1. @tijagi I got it don't worry, it's still #

              Saturday, 15-Apr-17 19:18:45 UTC from shitposter.club
        2. @shpuld That made me think: how low must a people population be on a planet, so they wouldn’t want to form states, make wars and simply live?

          Saturday, 15-Apr-17 19:19:15 UTC from gs.smuglo.li
          1. @tijagi very low, and everyone would probably have to be fairly homogenic too

            Saturday, 15-Apr-17 19:22:38 UTC from shitposter.club
            1. @shpuld Climate, tools, amount of daylight, edible things in nature – that’s enough to provide different cultures. What would probably be 100% alike is spending 80–90% of time on getting food and fixing shelters.

              Make huts, not war, eh.

              Saturday, 15-Apr-17 19:28:25 UTC from gs.smuglo.li
              1. @tijagi tbh I prefer spending 80-90% of the time on mangoposting and not getting food/shelter

                would not want to be a hunter gatherer, nothing cool about having to put all effort into survival

                Saturday, 15-Apr-17 19:40:21 UTC from shitposter.club
                1. @shpuld I better play the long dark instead too.  https://gs.smuglo.li/attachment/395667

                  Saturday, 15-Apr-17 20:22:08 UTC from gs.smuglo.li
                  1. @shpuld …though I sometimes sigh over my sleeping bag and the bag with a tent. https://gs.smuglo.li/attachment/395683

                    Saturday, 15-Apr-17 20:34:33 UTC from gs.smuglo.li
                    1. @tijagi it can be nice and refreshing to go camp in the forest fora a bit, but I'm still suffering from the overload of 'camping' during military service, haven't yet felt the urge to sleep on anything but a real bed again

                      Saturday, 15-Apr-17 20:37:35 UTC from shitposter.club
                      1. @shpuld You served in the army? If I did, I’d probably be fed of field days too.
                        And I’m still eager to travel around, but now I don’t have any friends. I remember one night that we decided to spent in the Repin’s park covered by only a military raincoat-tent, in 500 metres from Kremlin. In the morning my back hurt, but that was fun.

                        Saturday, 15-Apr-17 21:07:21 UTC from gs.smuglo.li
                        1. @tijagi yeah, over 80% of the men here actually do the conscription, so it's really not that special. tbh now when thinking of the field days, just being in the field isn't really bad at all, and the equipment used was good, the real problem is the other kiwi you have to do while pretending to actually fulfill your unit's purposes, which often ends up in a lot of fatigue and very little sleep with all the night shifts

                          if you get to take it chill while camping it's p good, only things that start wearing on you are things like hygiene, weather and uneven ground

                          Saturday, 15-Apr-17 21:13:15 UTC from shitposter.club
                          1. @shpuld Well, a war is not a resort.
                            https://gs.smuglo.li/attachment/395776

                            Saturday, 15-Apr-17 21:25:53 UTC from gs.smuglo.li
                          2. @shpuld > over 80% of the men here actually do the conscription
                            Well, Finland is a relatively easy to manage country. Here officers who do conscription have a long wooden ruler, which they put on a map from your home town to whatever BumFluffle Puff it may end. My groupmate was sent from Moscow to Baikal, and when he returned, he said that everyone there had previous convictions.

                            Saturday, 15-Apr-17 22:44:16 UTC from gs.smuglo.li
                            1. @tijagi @shpuld tfw the army didn't want me https://gs.smuglo.li/attachment/395925

                              Saturday, 15-Apr-17 22:46:34 UTC from gs.smuglo.li
                              1. @roka @shpuld Saved you a year of life.  https://gs.smuglo.li/attachment/395955

                                Saturday, 15-Apr-17 22:59:33 UTC from gs.smuglo.li
                                1. @tijagi @shpuld they gave me a category just slightly above that of retards - "unfit for service in times of peace" - just because of my leg and previous history of being very prone to illnesses which already stopped mattering at that point https://gs.smuglo.li/attachment/395968

                                  Saturday, 15-Apr-17 23:04:22 UTC from gs.smuglo.li
                                  1. @roka @shpuld > they gave me a category just slightly above that of retards - "unfit for service in times of peace"
                                    That’s mine category too! https://gs.smuglo.li/attachment/34760


























                                    We’re katawa boys lol.

























                                    I got mine after at the age of seven I’ve been dragged to school in winter once. With unbuckled coat and no scarf, so I got asthma. And though attacks stopped at the age of 14, I kept lying in hospital every other summer to fasten the diagnosis.




























                                    Honestly, there were bigger problems, that scared me of conscripting, but none of them were bad enough to free me from the army.

                                    Saturday, 15-Apr-17 23:25:34 UTC from gs.smuglo.li
                                    1. @tijagi @shpuld yeah, conscription gets a bad rep here too.

                                      for me, the health problems were because when i was a toddler some Potato Knishes doctor pumped me full of medicine that essentially broke down my immunity system. and since it was *that* period of time, she escaped responsibility entirely. we managed to fix it by the time i hit 16 but it took a lot of effort and monies, ehh. and leg was a different thing altogether - basically stuff happened and it had to be operated, and it wasn't exactly fixed as was expected. i can't exactly run for too long so i *get* why they gave me that classification, but it's still shamefur. https://gs.smuglo.li/attachment/396027

                                      Saturday, 15-Apr-17 23:32:56 UTC from gs.smuglo.li
                                      1. @roka @shpuld  https://gs.smuglo.li/attachment/396107

                                        Sunday, 16-Apr-17 00:18:32 UTC from gs.smuglo.li
                            2. @shpuld Last hour I’ve been watching a film about dedovschina in Soviet army https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nr9sQGdZwEI

                              Saturday, 15-Apr-17 22:49:12 UTC from gs.smuglo.li
                            3. @tijagi you guys also have major problems with bullying and abusing superior position there, something they've really focused on improving here for the past 20 years or so. and as an officer myself I can tell that you can still achieve your goals very well while respecting your underlings and without threatening punishment

                              Sunday, 16-Apr-17 06:07:14 UTC from shitposter.club
                              1. @shpuld You were an officer on top of that?  https://gs.smuglo.li/attachment/396595



















                                You must have plenty spurdo comics about Finnish army to post.

                                Sunday, 16-Apr-17 06:25:03 UTC from gs.smuglo.li
                                1. @tijagi so it works like this, everyone starts with 2 months basic training, and during which you choose or they choose for you what you're gonna do next, one of those options is non-commissioned officer training, and I think just about less than 50% go there and end up doing one thing or another. then after some weeks in NCO training they pick a few people from the top and send them to reserve officer training (in my case it was the top 3 out of the 20 guys in my nco unit), where you get to learn to be a platoon leader instead of just a squad leader in the beautiful coastal city of Hamina. after both nco/officer training you get get to actually do your job as an nco/officer for the remaining 6 months out of the 12. this was a really good experience imo. only problem in my case was that something had been messed up and we only had 1 officer candidate (me) in charge of a 60 man platoon with only 6 squad leaders as a help, instead of the usual 2-4

                                  Sunday, 16-Apr-17 06:34:52 UTC from shitposter.club
                                  1. @shpuld Six months from a random Pekka to an officer?

                                    Sunday, 16-Apr-17 07:37:49 UTC from gs.smuglo.li
                                    1. @tijagi well, officer candidate, doing officer jobs, after the whole 12 you get promoted to 2nd lieutenant

                                      Sunday, 16-Apr-17 07:41:13 UTC from shitposter.club