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  1. The thing that gets to me about this Nazi crap is that there aren't that many actual Nazis in the world, not anymore. The current debate about Nazis isn't about fighting legit Nazis, it's paranoia about a boogyman. Oooh, is that guy a Nazi? Is that a Nazi sympathizer? It's a way to dehumanize a target. Nazis are black holes of morality, anything done to them is completely justified because they're considered the absolute scum of the Earth. And sure, the real Nazis are. But like witches during the witch hunting days, or Communists during the Red Scare days, it's used to dehumanize people you don't like and then use that justification to do all sorts of terrible things to the person with the approval of your own conscious. When I beat that person, I'm not beating a fellow human being! No, I'm just beating a NAZI. He's a NAZI. And if you dare disapprove of what I do, you're also a NAZI, because only a NAZI wouldn't approve of my actions!

    Friday, 18-Aug-17 20:16:14 UTC from community.highlandarrow.com
    1. And here's the worst part of it: every bad guy is the hero of their own story. The worst human atrocities in history came when people were convinced their opposition needed to be destroyed no matter what, simply for what they were. Even if they weren't guilty of all that they're accused of. And that's why you can do all the same things your supposed opposition does, like hurting innocents, killing innocents, destroying property, fighting in the streets etc. and still say "but I'm doing this to fight Nazis, so if you disapprove, clearly you're against me and with THEM, the NAZIS."

      This is why I attack both sides. To support one side and condemn the other is not only not right, it's hypocritical. All the stuff we detest Nazis for is reflected by those who supposedly are fighting them. It's no longer about tactics, it's just about targets. And that should worry anyone because now labels matter more than actions.

      Friday, 18-Aug-17 20:19:51 UTC from community.highlandarrow.com
      1. @gameragodzilla Replace "nazi" with "jew" in any "let's beat up nazis" speech and suddenly...

        Friday, 18-Aug-17 20:45:50 UTC from web
    2. @gameragodzilla It's an incredibly broadened term too, even in regards to actual nazis. An SS officer, sure, scum, but the bulk of the nazi numbers were just normal people who signed up because they wouldn't be given jobs otherwise, and the atrocities only became public after the war.

      Friday, 18-Aug-17 20:44:44 UTC from web
      1. @nerthos Yeah, especially with a lot of conscription, too, which forced people to fight.

        See, at the end of WW2, there were trials and a lot of people were punished, but when it came to Germany as a whole, the US spent a lot of money rebuilding Germany, rather than punishing them. Because punishing them and leaving them broken and angry is how WW1 ended and that directly led to WW2. Heal wounds, not divide people. But that's not how most people seem to operate these days.

        Friday, 18-Aug-17 20:47:03 UTC from community.highlandarrow.com
        1. @gameragodzilla Hence why it's leading to a civil war rather than a good decade.

          Friday, 18-Aug-17 20:47:39 UTC from web
          1. @nerthos Yeah I know. And everyone's running headlong into it because they genuinely think they're the good guys fighting the bad guys.

            Friday, 18-Aug-17 20:48:49 UTC from community.highlandarrow.com
            1. @gameragodzilla I'm ok with it if in 10 years they're running off to distant countries in small numbers to escape the mass trials.

              Friday, 18-Aug-17 20:52:35 UTC from web
              1. @nerthos Well until then, Imma stay in a bunker and play video games 24/7 until it all blows over.

                Friday, 18-Aug-17 20:53:55 UTC from community.highlandarrow.com
            2. @gameragodzilla @nerthos I would rather face an evil that acknowledges its own evil, than an evil that is good convinced of its righteousness that does harm.

              Friday, 18-Aug-17 23:13:17 UTC from community.highlandarrow.com
              1. @maiyannah @nerthos  I'm always reminded of this quote when dealing with self-righteous people https://community.highlandarrow.com/attachment/55518

                Friday, 18-Aug-17 23:14:02 UTC from community.highlandarrow.com
                1. @gameragodzilla @maiyannah Not all self-righteous people

                  Friday, 18-Aug-17 23:14:25 UTC from web