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1. ceruleanspark

   You can infer a lot about the quality of an FPS by the quality of its Shotgun.

   Monday, 22-Aug-11 13:16:10 UTC from web
   1. milo

      @ceruleanspark This is true.

      Monday, 22-Aug-11 13:16:39 UTC from web
   2. rotation

      @ceruleanspark Go on?

      Monday, 22-Aug-11 13:17:57 UTC from web
      1. ceruleanspark

         @rotation A good FPS will always have a decent shotgun. Developers who include shotguns and make them more or less worthless (Saddle them with huge reload times and unrealistically short effective ranges or unfeasably wide scatter patterns) tend to have been lazy/inattentive in other regards too.

         Monday, 22-Aug-11 13:23:40 UTC from web
         1. colfax

            @ceruleanspark I hope you realize that shotguns in the real world have unrealistically short effective ranges.

            Monday, 22-Aug-11 13:27:12 UTC from StatusNet Desktop
            1. eaglehooves

               @colfax Sort of. BFBC2 gave you the option of massive stopping power with buckshot, or range with slugs. Games that give you multiple shell types are good in my book.

               Monday, 22-Aug-11 13:29:02 UTC from web
               1. ceruleanspark

                  @eaglehooves BFBC2's shotguns are good in my book anyway. They're my primary weapon, as it happens.

                  Monday, 22-Aug-11 13:30:39 UTC from web
                  1. rotation

                     @ceruleanspark Really? since the buckshot nerf a while ago, coupled with the poor hit detection, I haven't found them consistent enough for my needs.

                     Monday, 22-Aug-11 13:36:59 UTC from web
                     1. eaglehooves

                        @rotation I let my XBL expire, so I haven't been in matchmaking, but in firefight they always seem to buck through anything that gets near you.

                        Monday, 22-Aug-11 13:40:14 UTC from web
                        1. eaglehooves

                           I think I replied to somepony's unrelated rant with Halo. Guess I looked at the reply column wrong.

                           Monday, 22-Aug-11 13:43:48 UTC from web
                     2. ceruleanspark

                        @rotation It's been a while since I played, but I used use the Saiga20K/USAS12 basically all the time and had no issue with its effectiveness.

                        Monday, 22-Aug-11 13:40:55 UTC from web
            2. ceruleanspark

               @colfax It's still longer than the 10 feet some videogames give them.

               Monday, 22-Aug-11 13:29:07 UTC from web
            3. hoofandsnort

               @colfax that wasn't what it seemed like the last time I shot trap... 8|

               Monday, 22-Aug-11 13:32:55 UTC from web
               1. colfax

                  @hoofandsnort True, but most folks don't go into a firefight with a long-barreled shotgun either.

                  Monday, 22-Aug-11 13:35:07 UTC from StatusNet Desktop
            4. rotation

               @colfax Let's put that that one to bed. In 'Call of Duty Modern Warfare 2' the AA-12 has a maximum range of less than 8m. IRL, most 00buck 12 gauge rounds are lethal to 20-25m.

               Monday, 22-Aug-11 13:34:53 UTC from web
         2. rotation

            @ceruleanspark and I've only played one FPS with a decently balanced shotgun in the past 5 years. Coincidence?

            Monday, 22-Aug-11 13:27:56 UTC from web
   3. ceruleanspark

      @greydragon412 I love Halo's shotgun.

      Monday, 22-Aug-11 13:35:26 UTC from web
      1. eaglehooves

         @ceruleanspark That thing is sweet.

         Monday, 22-Aug-11 13:36:29 UTC from web