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  1. Objectively: All videogames are a terrible waste of time that could be better spent expanding your intellectual horizons in a useful fashion. Therefore, all the sonic games were bad and you should feel bad.

    Monday, 14-Nov-11 23:16:46 UTC from web
    1. @ceruleanspark This is true but we are people, and if there are two things people have gotten really good at is wasting time and killing each other.

      Monday, 14-Nov-11 23:17:55 UTC from web
    2. @ceruleanspark Actually, the newest research suggests that the intellectual skills learned in video games are more easily generalised and transferred to other situations than, say, all those culturally acceptable things. No, it doesn't teach kids grammar and spelling, but they become SMART...with bad grammar and spelling.

      Monday, 14-Nov-11 23:21:50 UTC from web
      1. @lilytheamazingfaintingpony I can't remember the last time I actually learned a useful intellectual skill from a videogame. I don't doubt that they CAN be a useful tool for that sort of thing, I just think that in the position that the market is currently in, they aren't.

        Monday, 14-Nov-11 23:22:52 UTC from web
        1. @ceruleanspark Cough 'Legend of Zelda' cough.

          Monday, 14-Nov-11 23:28:30 UTC from web
          1. @1mudkip88 If I'm ever in a situation I can only resolve by sliding blocks around, then yeah.

            Monday, 14-Nov-11 23:29:39 UTC from web
            1. @ceruleanspark You never know. But for real, it's better than the mindless violence that is Call of Duty.

              Tuesday, 15-Nov-11 01:03:21 UTC from web
      2. @lilytheamazingfaintingpony What you're saying is: Video games are the best at ruining kids. I've seen this recent generation of kids who play shooters all day and I agree

        Monday, 14-Nov-11 23:22:55 UTC from web
        1. @scoot @ceruleanspark This discussion will come no further without me linking the article accusing Call of Duty of being homoerotic: http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2011/nov/13/charlie-brooker-modern-warfare-3?CMP=twt_gu

          Monday, 14-Nov-11 23:31:42 UTC from web
          1. @lilytheamazingfaintingpony Well... to be fair, it isn't as manly as ponies after all.

            Monday, 14-Nov-11 23:32:39 UTC from web
          2. @lilytheamazingfaintingpony Hang on I need to put on Erasure for this

            Monday, 14-Nov-11 23:32:55 UTC from web
            1. @scoot ALLWAYS I WANNA BEE WITH YOU AND MAKE BELIEVE WITH YOU AND LIVE IN HARMONY HARMONY OH LOVE! ...I'm not ashamed to say I've bought about a dozen Erasure mp3s.

              Monday, 14-Nov-11 23:38:03 UTC from web
          3. @lilytheamazingfaintingpony God I love Charlie Brooker. That was kind of what I was talking about though. The last game that intellectually stimulated me was Deus Ex: Human Revolution, and even then, only from a problem solving perspective, rather than on any deep or stimulating level. I can understand how even a mindless game can impart a useful operative skill (Touhou is almost completely plotless, but the things it does to your sense of spacial awareness and peripheral perception are insane), I just feel like 90% of modern games don't actually challenge the player in a way that encourages that kind of development. They're like summer blockbuster movies. Designed to be easy to digest and not challenge the audience too much.

            Monday, 14-Nov-11 23:37:36 UTC from web
    3. @ceruleanspark A waste of time? Perhaps. An extremly fun waste of time? Definitley.

      Monday, 14-Nov-11 23:53:59 UTC from MuSTArDroid