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am i the only one without rdn refresh?
Wednesday, 06-Jun-12 03:01:15 UTC from web-
@wafers yes
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@wafers i got that some days ago
Wednesday, 06-Jun-12 03:01:47 UTC from web -
@wafers No, some have mintrefresh, and some are oblivious to the fact that there are refreshers.
Wednesday, 06-Jun-12 03:02:15 UTC from web-
@nerthos @techdisk42 Are they any significant differences?
Wednesday, 06-Jun-12 03:03:49 UTC from web-
@wafers It lacks the customizability of rdnrefresh, but i find its much cleaner and looks better. I dont care much for changing the logo or background anyway.
Wednesday, 06-Jun-12 03:06:40 UTC from web-
@techdisk42 and this may seem dumb, but where does one acquire this?
Wednesday, 06-Jun-12 03:08:21 UTC from web
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@wafers I have yet never tried Mintrefresh, but RDNrefresh has customization options Mintrefresh doesn't, yet Mintrefresh is less intrusive.
Wednesday, 06-Jun-12 03:09:33 UTC from web-
@nerthos I like the way you described that. Cause now that I think about it, that's exactly what my goal was. To make it less intrusive. xD
Wednesday, 06-Jun-12 03:10:29 UTC from web-
@minti Yay! Hours of philosophical pondering over how to word things are giving fruit.
Wednesday, 06-Jun-12 03:13:04 UTC from web
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@nerthos I switched to !mintrefresh when !rdnrefresh wasn't working and decided to stick with it because I like the way it highlights mentions better. I still long for an easier way to see new posts though, like what the line marker in my IRC client lets me do.
Wednesday, 06-Jun-12 03:13:51 UTC from web-
@toksyuryel I still need to implement that. xD
Wednesday, 06-Jun-12 03:14:30 UTC from web-
@minti You also need to fix in context links.
Wednesday, 06-Jun-12 03:15:11 UTC from web-
@abigpony I think I've fixed that actually. I haven't seen it give me a false context OR lack of context since my recent changes.
Wednesday, 06-Jun-12 03:15:36 UTC from web-
@minti Should I like, re-install it or something, then? It says there's not an update.
Wednesday, 06-Jun-12 03:16:40 UTC from web-
@abigpony Yeah it's an in-progress version. I wanna see if I can fix a few more things, and/or tweak some skin changes before pushing it out.
Wednesday, 06-Jun-12 03:17:26 UTC from web-
@minti alright I guess.
Wednesday, 06-Jun-12 03:18:28 UTC from web
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@minti Unless you havent updated the release one, i have still been getting the lack of or wrong context and redashes with the time of the redash instead of the original time...
Wednesday, 06-Jun-12 03:19:11 UTC from web-
@techdisk42 Original redash time may be tricky to fix cause of the way I handle time. :/
Wednesday, 06-Jun-12 03:26:31 UTC from web-
@minti I saw. Couldnt you read the time directly from all the posts instead of having it time it itself? It could then just update the time afterward.
Wednesday, 06-Jun-12 03:29:04 UTC from web-
@techdisk42 xD If I do that they're out of order, and people complain about that too.
Wednesday, 06-Jun-12 03:30:07 UTC from web-
Wednesday, 06-Jun-12 03:33:34 UTC from web
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@techdisk42 Cause of the frequency I fetch notices, sometimes it places newer ones below older ones. I hadn't really noticed but it bugged enough people that I made my script handle the times itself.
Wednesday, 06-Jun-12 03:36:16 UTC from web-
@minti Couldn't you just sort by ID? The IDs are assigned in chronological order by the server, so it shouldn't put anything out of expected order when sorted that way, and then you can actually use the server-sent times.
Wednesday, 06-Jun-12 03:48:13 UTC from web-
@bitshift I could, but like I said it looks really messy when the scripts adds a notice to the page at any position other than the top. xD
Wednesday, 06-Jun-12 03:52:01 UTC from web-
Wednesday, 06-Jun-12 03:52:32 UTC from web
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@bitshift It just looks bad, trust me. :p
Wednesday, 06-Jun-12 03:53:05 UTC from web-
@minti No, I mean why would it add them anywhere other than the top? You're always fetching the new notices, which means they're always going to be newer than what's already there. Right?
Wednesday, 06-Jun-12 03:55:12 UTC from web-
@bitshift Yep, but the original issue is that the dates are out of order on some, cause they're fetched out of order which means the IDs will also be out of order. Don't ask how but I've seen it happen with my own eyes.. xD
Wednesday, 06-Jun-12 03:56:28 UTC from web-
@minti Fetching being out of order is just how databases work if they aren't told to sort it. That's why you sort!
Wednesday, 06-Jun-12 03:57:53 UTC from web
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@minti Also the IDs are what StatusNet itself sorts by when serving up posts, so they would still be in the same order as the refresherless view.
Wednesday, 06-Jun-12 03:51:48 UTC from web
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@minti Then do what i do: force it to work. Keep what you have right now to facilitate the order of display of the posts, but add in the fetch(time) as the output. In other words, seperate the code for display order from the code that displays the time.
Wednesday, 06-Jun-12 03:36:09 UTC from web-
@techdisk42 I'd need to sort the posts to do that. ;p
Wednesday, 06-Jun-12 03:36:47 UTC from web-
@minti Right now it works in terms of order using the same code that lets it display time, right?
Wednesday, 06-Jun-12 03:39:18 UTC from web-
@techdisk42 Fetch order = order it's displayed in. It's added to the page as soon as a new post is shown on the server.
Wednesday, 06-Jun-12 03:40:13 UTC from web-
@minti Ah. So, dont mess with that. Cant you make a seperate code chunk that handles the "a few seconds ago" display? You can call the server time seperate from the display
Wednesday, 06-Jun-12 03:42:28 UTC from web-
@techdisk42 Yeah that's what I use to do, but with the unreliability of the server it could be 1-3 minute differences. :/
Wednesday, 06-Jun-12 03:43:34 UTC from web-
@minti Hm. :/ using the server time for redashes could work well. I would look at the code myself, but im on my ipod touch.
Wednesday, 06-Jun-12 03:45:46 UTC from web-
@techdisk42 Yeah it's easy enough to implement. Dunno why I didn't do it already.
Wednesday, 06-Jun-12 03:47:07 UTC from web
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@techdisk42 @minti Which would result in it looking really weird when a new post appeared below the current highest one.
Wednesday, 06-Jun-12 03:37:50 UTC from web -
@techdisk42 @minti Although I can easily just use the internal time for new posts and the server time for repeats I guess. >_> Man I'm overthinking this. xD
Wednesday, 06-Jun-12 03:39:00 UTC from web-
Wednesday, 06-Jun-12 03:43:53 UTC from web
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@techdisk42 For example (sudocode) on post {time = fetch(post time)} update(time) i cant remember off the top of my head, but couldnt you also fetch the time along with the text?
Wednesday, 06-Jun-12 03:32:37 UTC from web
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Wednesday, 06-Jun-12 03:05:04 UTC from web
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@toksyuryel *patpat*
Wednesday, 06-Jun-12 03:06:08 UTC from web-
@minti *hughug*
Wednesday, 06-Jun-12 03:08:50 UTC from web
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@toksyuryel OH you~
Wednesday, 06-Jun-12 03:09:57 UTC from web
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