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  1. Narwhal Narwhal

    L'enfer, c'est les autres.

    Friday, 22-May-15 03:11:25 UTC from web
    1. monsutaa kaado! monsutaa kaado!

      @northernnarwhal ?

      Friday, 22-May-15 03:14:37 UTC from web
      1. Narwhal Narwhal

        @mushi MetalTao joked about being in hell so I figured I'd opportunistically reference Jean-Paul Sartre.

        Friday, 22-May-15 03:16:04 UTC from web
        1. monsutaa kaado! monsutaa kaado!

          @northernnarwhal and what does that mean?

          Friday, 22-May-15 03:17:49 UTC from web
          1. Haru Haru

            @mushi the world may never know

            Friday, 22-May-15 03:30:51 UTC from web
            1. Narwhal Narwhal

              @polarbear Yeah, sorry about that. Was trying to briefly break down that quotation (which while reductive in regards to what it represents still essentially runs down its denotative meaning and context).

              Friday, 22-May-15 03:36:11 UTC from web
          2. Narwhal Narwhal

            @mushi The most common known English translation is "Hell is other people", though it has also been translated as "Hell is the Other" (which in my opinion fits in more with Sartre's philosphy given some of his other works that I'm familiar with). Anyway, the quotation itself is a bit loaded so I'll try to unpack it with brevity. It's a line spoken in his play "Huis Clos" (which is a legal term meaning in private, though the title is usually translated as "No Exit"). Anyway, the basic rundown is there are these three characters who are sent to the afterlife together, where the afterlife is just the three of them in a room with no mirrors or windows together for eternity. Therefore the line is sort of reflective of their condition, and thematically a reflection of Sartre's philosophy of "The Look" outlined in his other book "L'Être et Le Néant : Essai D'ontologie Phénoménologique", which explained in a really reductive manner is sort of how our self image is

            Friday, 22-May-15 03:32:29 UTC from web
          3. Narwhal Narwhal

            @mushi composed of the objectification of the Self through the subjectivity out external judgement. So essentially, other people inform you of your sense of Self whether you realize it or not, and the play creates a metaphor out of this by removing the mirrors from the room and having the people act as mirrors to each other. However, given that all the characters are only able to compose identity through the others, who are fundamentally broken in some way, they come to have a flawed sense of Self. Hence, "Hell is the Others", which is not at all saying relationships are inherehently damaged but that there is an existential struggle that arises from how we engage with our sense of being.

            Friday, 22-May-15 03:32:34 UTC from web
            1. Narwhal Narwhal

              @northernnarwhal *of our external

              Friday, 22-May-15 03:33:35 UTC from web