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    Wednesday, 01-Jul-15 01:36:47 UTC from web
    1. @nerthos hahaha, the lower right, we actually had a customer ask if we could turn off their language settings in their car for seeing that light.

      Wednesday, 01-Jul-15 01:38:26 UTC from web
      1. @appawljack I don't actually know what that is, being used to <90s cars

        Wednesday, 01-Jul-15 01:41:54 UTC from web
        1. @nerthos Electric stability programme.

          Wednesday, 01-Jul-15 01:43:27 UTC from web
          1. @appawljack Oh. Still don't know what that is.

            Wednesday, 01-Jul-15 01:43:45 UTC from web
            1. @nerthos It´s like a traction control systeme and electric power steering rolled in one. Sensors within the differential to gauge slip/traction, and electronic power-assisted steering. There are roll sensors involved as well but I don't have formal training in those parts yet.

              Wednesday, 01-Jul-15 01:45:37 UTC from web
              1. @appawljack Oh. That explains it. Never actually drove or worked on a car with assisted steering of any kind.

                Wednesday, 01-Jul-15 01:46:28 UTC from web
                1. @nerthos Kicking it old school. I like heavy steering much more than the modern car electric assist gives.

                  Wednesday, 01-Jul-15 01:47:51 UTC from web
                  1. @appawljack Same. I actually fought with someone back in highschool over mechanic steering vs hydraulic steering.

                    Wednesday, 01-Jul-15 01:49:25 UTC from web
                    1. @nerthos (Not as in fisticuffs, as in calling eachother apple)

                      Wednesday, 01-Jul-15 01:49:47 UTC from web
                    2. @nerthos You typically see cars with steering racks or worm gears? I'm guessing the latter.

                      Wednesday, 01-Jul-15 01:54:33 UTC from web
                      1. @appawljack I've actually seen more with steering racks. A bunch of those lying on my grandma's storeroom actually, since all my uncles go fix their cars there.

                        Wednesday, 01-Jul-15 01:56:29 UTC from web
                        1. @nerthos Ah, I was picturing large cars from the 70's like sedans.

                          Wednesday, 01-Jul-15 01:57:33 UTC from web
                          1. @appawljack Sadly they aren't used that much here nowadays. I love big '70s cars, but they're not as popular anymore due to fuel consumption and all that stuff.

                            Wednesday, 01-Jul-15 01:58:26 UTC from web
                            1. @nerthos It sort of became the same thing in the States but there's still a huge following of nostalgic people who'll scoop them up. Sometimes just drive them too, not restoring them but keeping them going. Then again petrol is still only $3-4/gallon.

                              Wednesday, 01-Jul-15 02:00:14 UTC from web
                              1. @appawljack From the 70s, the most still used cars over here are likely the Dodge 1500, Ford Falcon, Renault 12 and Peugeot 504. There ARE many big car enthusiasts and you'll see many such cars, both in perfect condition, customized and destroyed in the racing tracks' parkings; but they're not as common on the streets anymore.

                                Wednesday, 01-Jul-15 02:01:52 UTC from web
                              2. @appawljack Also apparently it costs about the same over here. About $1/liter

                                Wednesday, 01-Jul-15 02:03:07 UTC from web
                                1. @nerthos @appawljack Then again a popular thing to do is to convert big old cars to GNC (compressed natural gas) which is WAY cheaper, and old engines being more sturdy don't get damaged by operating on it.

                                  Wednesday, 01-Jul-15 02:04:43 UTC from web
                                  1. @nerthos I was just to ask that. The area I currently live in we see all sorts of old cars, older people with the money, nostalgia what have you. I've seen a few from the 30's just down the road. I don't know how popular it is to go to gnc here with old iron, high-ethanol mixes are more common at the usual stand.

                                    Wednesday, 01-Jul-15 02:07:15 UTC from web
                                    1. @appawljack Ethanol is only popular here in rural areas, mostly for farming equipment. In the cities it's really rare. But you often see automovile clubs with super old cars as well. On local holidays it's not rare to see 20s-60s cars parading on the main street.

                                      Wednesday, 01-Jul-15 02:10:16 UTC from web
                                      1. @nerthos 80's cars are starting to gain their popularity and getting scooped up cheap by people who know what they're doing, that's a trend I really like to see. Locally there's a guy with an IROC-Z Camaro, a Pontiac Fiero GT, a Porsche 944 and a C4 Corvette. All really nice looking. Puts my Celica to shame or close to it.

                                        Wednesday, 01-Jul-15 02:15:08 UTC from web
                                        1. @appawljack Oh, yeah, 80s cars are starting to become classics by now. There are a few car collectors around town. I remember this guy who has a car battery shop and has a bunch of collection cars in the back, including a '20s F1 car and some '30s coupes. Then there's the local millonaire with his sports cars.

                                          Wednesday, 01-Jul-15 02:18:50 UTC from web