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@mono I do hope you eventually build an imageboard. Your imageboard admin philosophy is sound and it would be great
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@moonman are you FrankerZposting?
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I used photoshop for this one, it has an animation tool now that makes it a lot faster. I sometimes will use After Effects if i have to get fancy. There's a lot of free ones out there to use too. For sprites I use pencil on mac, or there are some free sites you can use. Blender will work, GIMP I have trouble with.
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@rw when I'm not having output issues, I want to get a monthly subscription to Adobe tools for a while to try aftereffects.
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@moonman https://batcaveposter.club/attachment/59806
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@moonman Also the subscription model from adobe is bullkiwi and I wish I didn't have to support them to use it. Sell me your overpriced software as a package like you used to, this cloud based sub model is a pain in the ass for everything
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@rw I still have CS4 on a dvd somewhere
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@nerthos I do too, but they actually do make decent upgrades to make the software better with new versions while simultaneously making old and new versions more and more incompatible.
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@rw Personally, I'd rather still be using a hand-spun drill than an electric one if the electric one required me to pay a monthly subscription.
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@rw @nerthos I actually find CC clunkier. It takes more RAM for the same stuff, takes a papayaing millenia to load since its calling home to mommy Adobe to make sure it's allowed to come out and play, and every now and a gain hard BSODs my computer. I mostly just keep the sub so they can't say kiwi about my using CS cause I long since lost the receipt to it.
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@rw I just have an everlasting hate for anything that requires subscriptions. I consider it unethical, and would rather pay a lot for something than rent it.
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@moonman I don't argue the quality of the software, just the concept of the service.
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@moonman @nerthos @maiyannah This is my issue. I can not do what I need to with the available free software tools. Formats are incompatible, it takes me two to three times the amount of time for simple tasks, I've got like 15 years of experience using Adobe batcave. I've tried inkscape, i've tried gimp, i've tried all of it in order to replace my reliance on adobe. The biggest issue I have is these tools are not intuitive. I'd gladly help a developer write something that makes sense by providing some sort of designer insight, but most of the shortcuts, the functionality and etc seem like they require much more of an effort to just do a simple task.
Blender is probably the best free software tool alternative around. I don't have many complaints about it.
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@maiyannah @rw @nerthos tried it, too much hassle dealing with print houses that would only take adobe or Pagemaker formats, had issues with proprietary colorspaces. Admittedly the former is network effect and not quality. The quality of interoperability for Adobe was a lot better too, eg illustrator and ps.
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@maiyannah @moonman @nerthos I've used it and I like it for painting, but a majority of my work isn't illustration.
I make a lot of "memes" "image macros" and stupid bullkiwi for the internet and communities I'm in. All of that would stop if I gave photoshop up as well. I can afford to spend the time to create stupid content because I can do it so quickly. I had to use GIMP for work for a week while I had no subscription and it was hard. I could spend the time to learn it properly and tried to, but even then it's still not intuitive. -
@nerthos I used to. It's getting more difficult and frustrating to maintain
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@maiyannah @moonman @rw @nerthos 12000 hours in MS Paint. https://community.highlandarrow.com/attachment/23968
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@hakui @rw @nerthos @maiyannah all gimp usability arguments converge when one guy shows up and says he owns a graphic design company and uses all free software until you look up his Web site and all his work is laughable dog apple.
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@moonman @maiyannah @nerthos @rw are they at least better than http://www.27bslash6.com/brochure.html
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@rw Gotta say I love your drawing style
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@takegrapeakenji @rw @nerthos @maiyannah I have been complaining about the gimp since 1998, if I changed I wouldn't know how to go on living anymore.
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@nerthos 80% of bad design companies incorporate a frog somehow.
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@moonman Frogs are cool tho
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@maiyannah @rw @nerthos @m0n5t3r "I converted your file to RGB hope that's ok" "we can't open a 'TIFF' file"
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@nerthos Thanks! It's a style I perfected by being lazy ;-;
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@rw Haha, no problem. I just found out about you today so yeah. I guess I just like lazy or simple drawings.
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@maiyannah https://community.highlandarrow.com/attachment/23976 and there's me still using stuff like this when I don't need to be using photoshop because I rather like having more space to see what I'm buggering about with.
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@maiyannah Oh right I remember that one. I have a CD of that too.
