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  1. @mono All phone cameras are banana. Even the worst pocket digital camera is an improvement.

    Monday, 02-May-16 10:00:05 UTC from gs.kawa-kun.com
    1. @takeFluffle Puffakenji @mono My Nikon cost me less than an iphone, complete with 2 lenses and a few filters.  And it is not even in the same league in terms of quality.  Even the latest iphone's camera is only as good as proper digital cameras from like 10 years ago.

      Monday, 02-May-16 10:06:46 UTC from community.highlandarrow.com
    2. @mono @takemangoakenji Don't they always say it's not about the gear. ;)

      Monday, 02-May-16 12:26:47 UTC from web
      1. @jla @mono Well, when you have a tiny sensor like on a phone you have to make serious compromises to get anything.

        1) If you turn the ISO sensitivity way up, you get a ton of graininess.
        2) If you turn the 'shutter' speed way down, you get a ton of blurriness.
        3) If you do neither, your photo is very dark.

        How these companies are trying to pack a ton more 'megapixels' into these tiny sensors only worsens the problem.  In fact, the best thing they can do with all these 'megapixels' is downsample until the noise and blur are unnoticeable, which some phones do in software.

        Monday, 02-May-16 12:30:18 UTC from gs.kawa-kun.com
        1. @mono @jla I often pair my Micro Four Thirds camera with a pancake lens when taking photos like 'normal' people do with a phone.  When I'm in a dimly-lit space, with the aperture set to f/1.8 or so, I can get a shutter speed of 60 with a reasonable ISO setting, so the photos generally look pretty sharp.

          While the wide aperture does severely limit the depth of focus, that's usually not a significant problem in those cases.  I can always set up my mini tripod when on the go to allow for a slower shutter speed and a narrower aperture without blur.

          Monday, 02-May-16 12:35:05 UTC from gs.kawa-kun.com
          1. @takekiwiakenji @mono @jla I love the micro 4/3rds format. The sensor isn't much smaller than APS (18x13.5mm vs 24x18mm), so it's still great in low-light. But since it's closer to a square format than APS, the lenses can be made *much* smaller and lighter for the same aperture.

            My daily carry (literally) is a Canon T3i with the new-design 24/2.8 pancake and 50/1.8 focus-by-wire lenses, but I'm giving serious thought to selling the whole Canon kit and going with something micro 4/3rds.

            Monday, 16-May-16 18:06:53 UTC from soykaf.com
        2. @takeappleakenji@gnutan.xyz phones nowadays are about numbers, not usability. See: the phone with a 4k screen

          Monday, 02-May-16 14:11:52 UTC from gnutan.xyz
          1. Or all those 5.5" and 6" phones that are almost unusable one-handed. The Asus engineers who designed my Zenfone 2 knew this would be a problem, so they actually included a double-tap-home function to make the interface fit in a smaller area of the screen. I am not joking. http://www.asus.com/zentalk/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=6110

            Monday, 02-May-16 15:03:10 UTC from soykaf.com