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British PM to trigger #Brexit without vote by lawmakers | Reuters
British Prime Minister Theresa May will not hold a parliamentary vote on Brexit before formally triggering Britain's withdrawal from the European Union, The Daily Telegraph reported on Saturday, without specifying sources.
May will not offer opponents the chance to stall the withdrawal and has consulted lawyers who say she has the power to invoke the exit without a parliamentary vote, the conservative newspaper said. A majority of the 650 lawmakers had declared themselves "Remainers".
Opponents maintain that since the EU referendum result is not legally binding, elected lawmakers should review the vote before the process is started.
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-britain-eu-may-idUSKCN1120AK
Sounds logical. I mean, the biggest decision the UK could probably make, pushed through by a popular vote which was basically almost 50/50, and the Leave campaign basically won because young people couldn't be arsed to vote?
And the elected government will not even be consulted? How much more fail can you have?
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@jaywink @mastertdi
Saturday, 27-Aug-16 18:58:31 UTC from web-
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@tiffany Democracy has been for quite a bit just a way to say "we screw you but it's not our fault! people want that!"
Saturday, 27-Aug-16 19:02:37 UTC from web-
@nerthos And then when people change their mind it's suddenly "oh, no, democracy has already spoken--no take backsies."
Saturday, 27-Aug-16 19:04:56 UTC from web-
@tiffany Democracy only works when everyone is smart: which isn't the case. People in power know this, and convince everyone that democracy is the only good and fair way for government to work, so that then they can use the sheer numbers of dumb, easily influenced people to justify their actions. When someone points this out, that person is accused of being some sort of authoritarian dictator or a destabilizing revolutionary, or some other adjective so that the rest don't figure it out.
Saturday, 27-Aug-16 19:15:24 UTC from web-
@nerthos I think that's what I hate most about Brexit, it was a domino effect of ignorance and deceit. Even people who wanted to remain were under the impression that the referendum would just be something of a public opinion poll, that wouldn't actually result in anything. So many of the leave voters expressed very real regret for what they had done because the result was like something out of a cartoon; like Superman putting on glasses and everyone suddenly thinks he's a different person. It was a appleing cardboard box held up by a stick with a bar of chocolate under it. And there are still people telling us that it's "democracy" or it's "what the country needs," people so unequivocally dense that they defend Farage even though his entire campaign was a lie, except for the most vitriolic parts. I've had two months to calm down about this but... cherry, man.
Saturday, 27-Aug-16 19:25:49 UTC from web-
@tiffany Well, let it serve as a remainder of how democracy works. Everyone has to be /very/ careful with even the smallest decision, or you can be sure it'll end up badly. It'll never get to anything other than bad results until the majority of people able to vote are both smart and educated.
Saturday, 27-Aug-16 19:29:03 UTC from web-
@nerthos Yeah, if nothing else people (myself included) are more educated and politically charged. I'm hoping that 2016 is just kind of an outlier as far as godawful years go but it also kinda seems like it'll get progressively worse in the same way a TV drama has worse protagonists every season
Saturday, 27-Aug-16 19:33:19 UTC from web-
@tiffany Well, we're entering a cultural dark age if you pay attention. The causes are different depending on who you ask, but most will agree something is going really wrong. In my opinion it's the revisionism and the whole "if your opinion is not progressive/mainstream you're a bigot!" to the point that people can outright lose their careers for expressing an unpopular opinion, and things like skeleton differences between races are omitted from books for being considered racist. Political correctness over factual and scientific truth. Others will surely have a different opinion in regards to the cause, as I'm sure will include you, but most will agree that we're going down the drain. It does make sense though after a period of unparalelled advancement like we had from the renaissance to the XX century. One of the evident symptoms is the fact that few realize just how badly they're getting screwed with this idea of democracy, and how many politicians have figured out how to abuse it.
Saturday, 27-Aug-16 19:44:23 UTC from web
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