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@abigpony Oh, that one. Funny.
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@abigpony Yeah... A background pony name or something discreet would be fine... Like zecora or Diane (Pinkemena Diane pie) but.... Oh god....
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@abigpony i wake up....its 5 am...and i see a baby born with the name Pinkamena Zecora smith. http://mylittlefacewhen.com/f/1464/
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@abigpony What's even funnier, it was uploaded April 29. So people took ages to notice.
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@nerthos The point is not that we took a while to notice, just the fact that it HAPPENED.
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@purplephish20 Hey, Zecora's in the middle there.
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@abigpony I know. It's funny. It's a hideous name in it's own right, even if the names belonged to heroes of an ancient legend.
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@purplephish20 @abigpony Lyra would have been a great choice.
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@nerthos What happened to names like Beowulf and Hrothgar and stuff? We should bring those back.
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@abigpony Yeah. If I were to have a kid I would name him Siegfried.
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@nerthos And a girl I would name Freja or Astrid, because I love those names.
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@nerthos And mine shall be Roy
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@abigpony A good choice too. At times I think having a child would actually have some fun things, but I quickly dismiss those ideas.
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@nerthos I thinkI could be a good father and take joy in that...
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@hakupony Probably. If that's what you like. It's not my thing, though, I would be severely dissappointed at lots of things, and I couldn't even stand the first years.
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@nerthos I like kids and all, I'd just be a bad parent. Having responsibility over another being/ not my thing.
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@nerthos The first ears - yeah. I think, I wouldn't enjoy the first years either.
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@hakupony Kids can be fun when they're somewhat gifted. Intelligent and with a fair amount of knowledge for their age. But until age 5 or so, they're just too obnouxious, and I don't want to risk falling in an outburst of rage and obliterating the thing.
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@abigpony I have proven to excel at taking care of animals and other people IRL, but I can't stand little kids. If I'm in charge of a "senitent" being, sure, I can do it. But if it's all whinning, crying and bad smell, I'll just throw th thing into a hole.
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@nerthos There is a huge boost in intellectual skills at arount the time children get to visit school. Very much happens before that but at arount that age they develop a certain kind of smartness very few people have because it often getss punished.
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@hakupony I wouldn't send a child of mine to school. No way. That would be like tying the legs of a horse to restrain speed. I wuld provided proper education. Correct values and far more knowledge than school in less time.
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@nerthos *would provide
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@nerthos I woud sent it to school. And if I heard he cheated without getting caught, I would be roud :D IMHO, it is important to learn on how to adapt to a complex system in which you are in a weak position and use their structures against it. About the things you learn in school: you forget 90% and link the other 10% with things you like. That's life.
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@hakupony #kindoflatereply For me it's not that much about how much they teach, or the position in the system. Schools there are not like schools here. About cheating, I would be dissappointed because cheating means the guy wasn't good enough. I never cheated on exams because it was easier for me to just learn the thing (which most of the time I already knew) than to bother cheating. As for why exactly I don't want to send it to school. well, an easy way to explain it is to say that school is like the zoo, but instead of watching from behind bars and with an explanation of what is that animal inside, you're left alone inside the box, surrounded by primitive beasts disguised as something akin to you, and with no explanation of their true nature. There's that, and there's the mind tampering at an age at wich people are vulnerable to it, done by idiots, to create more idiots. For an average kid, yeah, it's something bothersome but not really awful. [continued on next post]
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@nerthos But for a kid well above the average of their age, it's hell. It's to be surrounded by idiots who can barely grasp concepts that for the better kid are basic and simple. It is to see someone failing, try to teach how to do the thing, and be replied as medieval peasants to something they didn't understand, with claims of witchcraft and stones. School is there to educate the dumb into being pawns, and to restrain the bright so their abilities never develop, and they stay at a level under that of those who rule believing themselves smart. If you tell the kid "You're far better than them, consider them animals, for they do not understand what you see simple, and be careful for they are wild and dangerous" then everything will be right. But most parents don't understand they have to do this, or even see such procedures as racist or wrong. [continued on next post]
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@nerthos As a doctor whose name I don't remember said, "Both those who are dumber and those who are brighter live hard lives. Difference is, those who are dumber aren't aware of that, but those who are smarter do know they are different" And something I would like to add to that line, is that at a short age, kids don't think "I'm smarter, they just aren't at the level" because they believe the other kids are their equals, but they are just assholes. Only after many years and problems they come to the conclusion they are at a higher level. So that's why if I were to have a child, I wouldn't risk the chances. I would teach everything at home, and give the kids the means to deal with those who are below, before sending him or her to the "wilds". #professornerthosexplains
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@nerthos For nine whole years... ;_;
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@nerthos You are making a kind of Rousseau-based argument. I'd counter that with the fact that especially someone who wants to be great needs to get in touch with the "pawns". You need to experience the world, see what ideas there are and how they affect people. You must learn how "simple" people think. This is why I approve of cheating if it is done well - because it is a way to get some distance from the absolutely of the system. Most stuff you learn at school is forgettable and if you sucessfully cheat because you don't see the reason in the stuff they want to teach you, you show that you can use the system but are not ruled by it. This is exactly how I want people to act in society (which has ignorant people en masse) - I expect people to know and use the rules but to notice when those rules try to control them and seeking a way to reserve their freedom.
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@derpyshy More like, 15 of my average posts xD
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@hakupony Yes, your argument is valid. It IS needed that the person interacts with the "pawns" if you want to call them like that. But you don't send a soldier to war naked and without training. You first need to teach him the basics and give him some equipment. The problem is, our educational systems are completely different. Here, if you cheat, it's because you're dumb to an extent in wich you'll never archieve anything in life. School is too easy, and made for the dumb. I know from people that went to Germany, that there the educational system is far better.
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@nerthos Okay, you got a point there. I'd not say that a child was "naked" at school (that would be rather awkard ;-) ) because of the contact with parents. if there is a good child-parent relationshi (which is very, very imporatant) the child will "use" his or her parents to get strategies to deal with the things encountered at school. Of course, different parents teach different strategies (mostly without knowing) which is interesting from a kind of socialist standoint. Even in an egalitarian school system, this "Habitus" would result in the children of the educated and rich getting better chances.
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@hakupony I don't have a problem with the advantage given to the children of the rich and educated. Even with that, the naturally gifted kids would stil prevail. I had a good relationship with my parents until school. I was learned and everything, yet, as I said, nobody told me "You're smarter, they are just idiotic" My best friend was in the same road, but since I tell her how to avoid conflict, how to control others, and the difference between hers and their natures, things are far better. The bright kids don't need parents to excel at life. They need a sensei to tell them how to prevail, before they're faced with the dangers. People might say my way of tought is racist or whatever, but I really think those who are born with the ability should be helped to be even better, not those who lack it to be equals to those gifted but without the proper training.
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