1. So apparently the antitank rifle on BF1 was in fact real

    Thursday, 05-Jan-17 23:04:17 UTC from web
    1. @awl It is, but IMO it's poorly implemented. Should be deployable on prone or on low walls as you're supposed to rely on the bipod to fire that kinda thing rather than shoulder fire it.

      Thursday, 05-Jan-17 23:06:30 UTC from web
      1. @nerthos yeah, also it was not in field until the very last few months. don't have a way to play it, but I've seen enough of it.

        Thursday, 05-Jan-17 23:08:11 UTC from web
        1. @awl They could get away with it like they did in the original battlefied 1942 expansion, but it'd still be really complicated to implement

          Thursday, 05-Jan-17 23:09:38 UTC from web
      2. @nerthos @awl I've shoulder-fired a sniper rifle once in my life (long story).  I still have pains in that shoulder from the injury I received doing so.

        Thursday, 05-Jan-17 23:09:09 UTC from
        1. @maiyannah Why exactly did you do that? @awl mentioned shooting AT rifles on training, but I assume it was done the proper way

          Thursday, 05-Jan-17 23:10:23 UTC from web
          1. @nerthos @awl When you have an opening to take the shot when they want you to, that windows gonna be gone by the time you lay down and set it up on a tripod.  There isn't time for hesitation or "doing it right" when lives are on the line.

            Thursday, 05-Jan-17 23:12:34 UTC from
            1. @maiyannah Oh, you're talking about the police thing you did

              Thursday, 05-Jan-17 23:12:16 UTC from web
              1. @nerthos Mhm.

                Thursday, 05-Jan-17 23:14:06 UTC from
                1. @maiyannah Considering you're like, really short and thus light, how much did that push you back?

                  Thursday, 05-Jan-17 23:18:59 UTC from web
                  1. @nerthos I was braced against a wall, so not far.  Probably actually why I hurt myself rather than just landing on my ass with my firearm some feet away, though.

                    Thursday, 05-Jan-17 23:20:58 UTC from
                    1. @maiyannah Makes enough sense. One of the many reasons service isn't for me.

                      Thursday, 05-Jan-17 23:21:57 UTC from web
                    2. @maiyannah @nerthos In my model aircraft days there was a saying: if it doesn't flex it breaks

                      Thursday, 05-Jan-17 23:28:17 UTC from
                      1. @bob @nerthos Well I'm pretty broken already, so it's alright.

                        Thursday, 05-Jan-17 23:29:16 UTC from
            2. @maiyannah Definitely. In sniper school they taught to take your time. In field school they taught you to be quick about taking your time.

              Thursday, 05-Jan-17 23:13:18 UTC from web
              1. @awl I made that shot, but I've been paying for it the rest of my life, eheh.

                Thursday, 05-Jan-17 23:15:26 UTC from
                1. @maiyannah haha, once we did SVRs with your usual rounds fired just resting on sandbags, just lacing into an old truck. That batcaveing hurt for months, namely for the fact that we weren't getting any time to recuperate

                  Thursday, 05-Jan-17 23:16:05 UTC from web
                  1. @awl I can imagine!  Been a long time since I did anything like that.  I just get to sit here with my 1.5 legs and ramble about the semi-glory days.

                    Thursday, 05-Jan-17 23:19:09 UTC from
                    1. @maiyannah I got out close to a decade ago and like when I go out for hikes for longer than half-days I get memories flowing back. You sound like a vet yourself.

                      Thursday, 05-Jan-17 23:19:57 UTC from web
                      1. @awl Police, not forces, but I did boot.  Actually I ended up in police rather than forces as I didn't owe service and my dad freaked out when he found out I'd signed up (he himself was an veteran who got shipped back after being injured in a friendly fire incident, so...)

                        Thursday, 05-Jan-17 23:23:38 UTC from
                        1. @maiyannah Ah that's a kiwity way, I mean getting sent back by being injured at all is. Hope he's doing ok by that though. And police... sounds like unless this was in your basic in the forces, you were in special action or something along the lines?

                          Thursday, 05-Jan-17 23:25:29 UTC from web
                          1. @awl Ended up running with Tactics unit a lot because of the military training, which is basically our much simpler-named version of what the US calls SWAT.

                            Thursday, 05-Jan-17 23:27:35 UTC from
                            1. @maiyannah Ah, gotcha. Sounds exciting. I don't mean to bombard you with questions though.

                              Thursday, 05-Jan-17 23:28:10 UTC from web
                              1. @awl It was.  I still take some pride in having done that because I did some objectively good things back then, rather than just being another workaday person in the retail I was after I got "retired", or the writing I do now.  But that's life for ya.  It comes at ya fast, as they say.

                                Thursday, 05-Jan-17 23:30:28 UTC from
                                1. @maiyannah Don't meet many people who have that kind of service under their belt and look bad on it with total disdain. My time in was pretty much the best I had also.

                                  Thursday, 05-Jan-17 23:31:49 UTC from web
                                  1. @awl Good time with good people doing good things.  I miss it greatly, but with the whole 1.5 legs thing, I couldn't do it again now even if I wanted to.

                                    Thursday, 05-Jan-17 23:34:21 UTC from
                            2. @maiyannah I'm actually curious how you got into that with your condition, unless it didn't manifest strongly until later on.

                              Thursday, 05-Jan-17 23:31:23 UTC from web
                              1. @nerthos Bingo.  It didn't come on in a big way until I was abusive of myself some while later.  I had a bad run of depression a couple years after I got out of policing feeling like the best years of my life were well behind me since I wouldnt be able to do that again and I was not kind to myself.

                                Thursday, 05-Jan-17 23:33:33 UTC from
                                1. @maiyannah Oh, that finally lets me make some sense of what you've told of your life. I had assumed you got retired because of it. Guess it's the classical "you're your worst enemy" thing.

                                  Thursday, 05-Jan-17 23:35:41 UTC from web
                                  1. @nerthos I got "retired" when I decided catching a shotgun shell in the knee was a good idea.  I'd do it again though, considering in that situation I was putting myself between an assailaint and their prospective victim.  It's that injury that appleed up my knee and eventually necessitated the amputation I had two years ago now.

                                    Thursday, 05-Jan-17 23:39:02 UTC from
                                    1. @maiyannah Oh! that explains even more. I always thought it was something related to your medical conditions, but it's nice to know it was heroic instead.

                                      Thursday, 05-Jan-17 23:38:54 UTC from web
                                    2. @maiyannah Hope they gave you honours or something instead of just shoved you out.

                                      Thursday, 05-Jan-17 23:39:41 UTC from web
                                      1. @awl You're funny.

                                        Thursday, 05-Jan-17 23:45:10 UTC from
                                        1. @maiyannah that's what my exes say

                                          Thursday, 05-Jan-17 23:44:49 UTC from web
        2. @maiyannah yee they'll do that

          Thursday, 05-Jan-17 23:11:26 UTC from web
    2. @awl Kolibri is, too.

      Thursday, 05-Jan-17 23:11:14 UTC from web
      1. @bobo I remember getting miffed at seeing the ATR but not that

        Thursday, 05-Jan-17 23:13:57 UTC from web
      2. @bobo Mini pistols were common from the late 1800s into the early 1900s

        Thursday, 05-Jan-17 23:14:51 UTC from web