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  1. @hakui @tijagi strongarm

    Saturday, 21-Jan-17 07:13:30 UTC from gs.smuglo.li
    1. @dokidoki @tijagi ?            ?
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       https://freezepeach.xyz/attachment/113932

      Saturday, 21-Jan-17 07:14:57 UTC from freezepeach.xyz
      1. @hakui @tijagi to strongarm someone is to force them to do something, such as finishing early

        Saturday, 21-Jan-17 07:19:25 UTC from gs.smuglo.li
        1. @dokidoki @tijagi i still have no idea what "finishing early" entails

          Saturday, 21-Jan-17 18:49:28 UTC from freezepeach.xyz
          1. @hakui That you're too hot or the guy too weak

            Saturday, 21-Jan-17 18:54:18 UTC from web
            1. @nerthos @hakui  https://gs.smuglo.li/attachment/41823

              Saturday, 21-Jan-17 19:22:22 UTC from gs.smuglo.li
              1. @tijagi @nerthos okey

                Saturday, 21-Jan-17 19:23:34 UTC from freezepeach.xyz
                1. @hakui @nerthos
                  > roommate finished early
                  > and returned the pen
                  H-Hakui, please throw it out! https://gs.smuglo.li/attachment/282335

                  Saturday, 21-Jan-17 19:27:57 UTC from gs.smuglo.li
                  1. @tijagi @nerthos y'all are banned from the internet for a week

                    Saturday, 21-Jan-17 19:29:11 UTC from freezepeach.xyz
                    1. @hakui B-but hakui senpai... http://rainbowdash.net/attachment/856226

                      Saturday, 21-Jan-17 19:30:16 UTC from web
                    2. @hakui @nerthos Woo-hoo, a whole week to master my new brush pen.

                      Saturday, 21-Jan-17 19:33:03 UTC from gs.smuglo.li
                      1. @tijagi @nerthos oh it arrived?

                        Saturday, 21-Jan-17 19:33:37 UTC from freezepeach.xyz
                        1. @hakui @nerthos Yes, along with those nibs and melamine sponges. I didn’t show it off, because my first kanji instantly shown me, that I can’t draw it.

                          Maybe I will try it now…

                          …A-and, after two hours and three sheets I present you my best 中.  https://gs.smuglo.li/attachment/282436

                          Saturday, 21-Jan-17 21:16:07 UTC from gs.smuglo.li
                          1. @nerthos @hakui That vertical stroke is the real challenge. Not only must it be straight, it also has this pommel, drawing which requires a trick, which may easily mess your hand height, which will turn out in the stroke having uneven width later; it also must end with the left side of the stroke thinner than the right one. This all makes four(!) moves in two.

                            And beside of that, drawing with brush kills your neck twice as faster, because you hold the brush vertically and must see what are you drawing at the same time. My forehead was covered in sweat by the end of these two hours. Japanese calligraphy is for really hard-working people.

                            On a side note, some sensei on youtube said, that one must consume a spirit and convey its energy in one’s work. I thought of hot potatoes. https://gs.smuglo.li/attachment/218650

                            Saturday, 21-Jan-17 21:37:51 UTC from gs.smuglo.li
                            1. @tijagi It's pretty, but terribly impractical. It's for people who want to dedicate hours each day just to practicing those drawings.

                              Sunday, 22-Jan-17 08:39:37 UTC from web
                              1. @nerthos > It's pretty, but terribly impractical
                                That’s the definition of calligraphy. https://gs.smuglo.li/attachment/49712

                                Sunday, 22-Jan-17 08:55:59 UTC from gs.smuglo.li
                                1. @tijagi There's decent caligraphy that can be done relatively fast and has an use. Like the caligraphy practice I had for technical drawing, that gets you used to drawing standarized print letters with ease, making mistakes when reading a blueprint impossible.

                                  Sunday, 22-Jan-17 08:57:09 UTC from web
                                  1. @nerthos
                                    > Like the caligraphy practice I had for technical drawing
                                    https://gs.smuglo.li/attachment/282895
                                     

                                    Sunday, 22-Jan-17 09:53:50 UTC from gs.smuglo.li
                                    1. @tijagi What's that face supposed to mean

                                      Sunday, 22-Jan-17 10:03:49 UTC from web
                                      1. @nerthos 「wut」

                                        Sunday, 22-Jan-17 10:05:48 UTC from gs.smuglo.li
                                        1. @tijagi Oh. Had three years of caligraphy for it. Pages and pages of letters and numbers to get used to the font used for blueprints. In the long run it made my handwriting less awful.

                                          Sunday, 22-Jan-17 10:05:38 UTC from web
                                          1. @nerthos You mean this script or what? https://gs.smuglo.li/attachment/282912

                                            Sunday, 22-Jan-17 10:08:02 UTC from gs.smuglo.li
                                            1. @tijagi Basically. http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-8xmSSdOqOVE/TZ-t0MNxEbI/AAAAAAAAACM/u5KuCjIrq1I/s1600/Dibujo.JPG

                                              Sunday, 22-Jan-17 10:07:28 UTC from web
                                              1. @nerthos
                                                > calligraphy
                                                > Noun
                                                > 1. The art or practice of writing letters and words in a decorative style; the letters and words so written.

                                                Sunday, 22-Jan-17 10:12:32 UTC from gs.smuglo.li
                                                1. @nerthos I mean I wasn’t joking when I said that being impractical is the definition of calligraphy. It is complicated for the beauty of it.

                                                  Sunday, 22-Jan-17 10:14:49 UTC from gs.smuglo.li
                                                2. @tijagi "La caligrafía (del griego καλλιγραφία [kaligrafía]) es el arte de escribir con letra bella, artística y correctamente formada, siguiendo diferentes estilos; pero también puede entenderse como el conjunto de rasgos que caracterizan la escritura de una persona o de un documento."
                                                  "[...]It's the art of writting with pretty, artistic and correctly formed letters, following different styles; but also can be understood as the collective of traits that characterize the writing of a person or document"
                                                  Also a valid definition.

                                                  Sunday, 22-Jan-17 10:15:02 UTC from web
                                                  1. @nerthos
                                                    > but also can be understood as the collective of traits that characterize the writing of a person or document
                                                    That’s handwriting.

                                                    Sunday, 22-Jan-17 10:27:02 UTC from gs.smuglo.li
                                                    1. @nerthos Well, in Spanish (or whatever that was) calligraphy may mean also handwriting, but in the languages that follow the original meaning of the word, it doesn’t.

                                                      Sunday, 22-Jan-17 10:29:39 UTC from gs.smuglo.li
                                                      1. @tijagi Well, it just depends on what you consider "artistic and pretty". It's not less valid to consider standarized fonts that than it is to say the same about fancy kanji, as beauty and art are subjective. As long as you're striving towards adhering to a perfected, stylized font, you're doing caligraphy.

                                                        Sunday, 22-Jan-17 10:31:04 UTC from web
                                                        1. @nerthos I don’t deny, that a script for blueprints has its own beauty, but it wasn’t created to embellish something or be beautiful in the first place. Just to be readable well. Hence can only be related to calligraphy with its well-aligned forms thanks to the modern tools. There was Roman cursive script for example, which was a simplification of the famous Square capitals script, like this modern standardised one, only with a difference of ~2k years. Roman cursive was a utility script, too, and is not considered calligraphic. But some forms of much later uncial script are derived from it, and uncial is a calligraphic script. And in parallel to Roman cursive and Roman square capitals there was Rustic script, written with a stylo, like the former. Rustic was used exclusively in books, its forms are different from the other two and it is a purely calligraphic script. On the left picture: Roman square capitals script on Trajan’s

                                                          Sunday, 22-Jan-17 11:17:56 UTC from gs.smuglo.li
                      2. @tijagi In this context, that sounds bad...

                        Saturday, 21-Jan-17 19:39:34 UTC from web
                        1. @nerthos  I-I would never…   ⋅ ’  ° ( /// △\\\)

                          Saturday, 21-Jan-17 21:17:38 UTC from gs.smuglo.li