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I wonder where the idea english speaking people have that adding "el" before a name is a proper thing to do in spanish. It's actually a telling trait of someone being uneducated, referring to others as "el [name]" rather than the name alone or a title like "don" or "señor" which are used as signs of respect much like the japanese suffixes. I guess maybe from the uneducated people that leave the bad areas of mexico for USA?
Saturday, 21-Jan-17 09:56:18 UTC from web-
@nerthos
Could have noticed it in a name from there and thought it sounded cool, so they repeat that.-
@sim It is proper usage when in a commercial name or stage name, for example the wrestler "el santo" is called that, not just "santo", as it means "the saint". But it's not proper to call a person like that. It's common that uneducated people will talk of eachother adding "el" like for example "el Pedro me dijo que tu habías dejado el pueblo", but it's frowned upon in educated circles as the proper way is to use the name alone or with an honorific like "Pedro" or "Don Pedro"
Saturday, 21-Jan-17 10:03:59 UTC from web-
@nerthos
That makes sense. I wonder if it is because of the stage names that people got this impression. Or perhaps used as a joke.-
@sim As I mentioned, it's not uncommon for uneducated people to use it, so maybe they just heard a lot of such people talking and thought it was the proper way to do it. If I had learned english hanging around in ghetto-like sites, I'd probably be terrible at it using words like "finna" thinking the language was actually like that.
Saturday, 21-Jan-17 10:09:12 UTC from web-
@nerthos @sim There's also the fact that names are referred to by themselves, while common objects DO require "el" being added as a prefix.
Saturday, 21-Jan-17 10:11:13 UTC from web -
@nerthos
In that case, that is a likely place that they heard it as well. I think it is an easy mistake to make when you have people using it as well.
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@nerthos It's a stupid interpretation that stuck, it happens a lot.
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@clacke Possibly. Stage names, as mentioned.
Saturday, 21-Jan-17 11:17:17 UTC from web
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