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  1. What bothers me about # is that, for anything non-trivial, you will need a bash script for ExecStart and ExecStop actions. !Archlinux

    Monday, 19-Nov-12 22:13:17 UTC from identi.ca at 52°8'4"N 0°27'58"W
    1. @neildarlow What bothers me about systemd is that it fails to properly shut down my system roughly half the time, getting stuck at "reached target state shutdown". I never had any of these silly problems before I "upgraded" to systemd. Stuff just worked.

      Monday, 19-Nov-12 22:16:05 UTC from MuSTArDroid
      1. @omni You could do a lot by simple ordering of your DAEMONS line in initscripts. # has brought complexity and breakage. !Archlinux

        Tuesday, 20-Nov-12 10:42:57 UTC from identi.ca at 52°8'4"N 0°27'58"W
        1. @neildarlow I've completely stopped using initscript daemons and transferred everything over to systemd. I need to figure out why it is failing. The annoying thing is that it only fails roughly half the time, and shuts down cleanly as it should the other half of the time =/

          Tuesday, 20-Nov-12 12:07:07 UTC from web
          1. @omni journalctl and following the logging of process shutdown should give you some clue as to which processes aren't terminating cleanly.

            Tuesday, 20-Nov-12 15:21:48 UTC from identi.ca at 52°8'4"N 0°27'58"W