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The Cabal has arrived.
Monday, 04-Apr-11 23:23:56 UTC from web-
@vt3c I want good car gadgets. I don't know whether it's a good idea for the US to have opened free trade with China though
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@pony Why wouldn't it be.
Tuesday, 20-Aug-13 05:58:46 UTC from web-
@notthefbi value conflicts are my biggest issue with them, yet they're very conservative ironically.
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@pony Value conflicts?
Tuesday, 20-Aug-13 06:08:18 UTC from web-
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@pony Wait, you're saying population control is /bad/? Do you know what happens if they don't control the population?
Tuesday, 20-Aug-13 06:15:48 UTC from web-
@notthefbi yes. What hapens is that people stop throwing their newborn daughters in dumpsters or worse.
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@pony What happens? They starve massively. And the entirety of China won't just sit on their asses and die due to lack of food. They'll get weapons and start a military expansion costing millions of lives in order to /eat/. You can't tell me population control is bad when that's the alternative.
Tuesday, 20-Aug-13 06:20:28 UTC from web-
@notthefbi infanticide is worse than war. Though I doubt you're correct, I take war over infanticide. This conversation sucks btw.
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@pony They could just stop having recreational sex, solving both issues. But in any case, as I see it you either don't know what you're talking about or are really messed up. I'm not wrong, the sheer numbers of their population over the surface of their country means they already rely on imported food.
Tuesday, 20-Aug-13 06:25:32 UTC from web-
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Tuesday, 20-Aug-13 06:29:37 UTC from web
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@rarity You don't really know me then. I might be arrogant and very outspoken, but I know the limits of my knowledge.
Tuesday, 20-Aug-13 06:31:44 UTC from web
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@pony Everything relevant? Sustaining human population (without completely raping the very earth on which those humans stand) is possible only up to a certain people:surface ratio
Tuesday, 20-Aug-13 06:31:00 UTC from web-
@notthefbi yes. I'm asking whether you know everything about what it takes for humans to survive no matter their population.
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@pony Do you honestly think any country would spend trillions on carefully engineered megafarms, water and waste processing plants, and nation-wide general infrastructure when the logical and low-cost option of controlling vegetative growth is there?
Tuesday, 20-Aug-13 06:37:11 UTC from web-
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@pony I think it's pretty obvious that there's not a single living man who can claim to know everything relevant to a big topic and not look like an idiot, so the question is unnecesary. Claiming absolute knowledge is a clear sign of stupidity, and I'm not stupid.
Tuesday, 20-Aug-13 06:43:31 UTC from web-
@notthefbi You insist you're not stupid and not wrong, but by so doing you only make yourself more vulnerable to being wrong or stupid.
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@pony Since you've decided to use that method to face this discussion, I have to assume you don't actually have an argument and declare this discussion over. I have no desire to spend two hours going on a battle of logical fallacies instead of actual conversation.
Tuesday, 20-Aug-13 06:50:48 UTC from web-
@notthefbi About the time I declared that the conversation sucked I stopped caring about showing I was right or you were wrong. I try not to dwell on winning or losing. What mattered to me is that I expressed myself clearly in the beginning. You're free to disagree with me.
Tuesday, 20-Aug-13 06:54:50 UTC from web
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Education could help immensely.
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