Timeline for introvert list by m14brony, page 7

m14brony Scribus

@scribus That's true, but I am also pointing out that assault rifles are not nearly as common as some would have us believe.

m14brony Cloud Kicker

@critialcloudkicker I'm not saying that things will automatically change. I am just saying that attempts are being made to use "Politics 101" to demonize people, and I am saying what could possibly happen. All sorts of scapegoating is done by politicians to divert attention away from their failures.

m14brony awlxaĺan

@awl The registry for assault rifles, machine guns, etc. was closed by Reagan in 1986. Most people are effectively barred access to assault rifles due to price tags ranging from thousands of dollars to tens of thousands of dollars per gun.

m14brony awlxaĺan

@awl First of all, a background check in itself indicates that we are not dealing with a purely "God given" right. Additionally, a criminal who wants to obtain something badly enough will find a way to obtain it illegally, whether we are talking about firearms, explosives, or drugs.

m14brony awlxaĺan

@awl I'm all for making sure someone is of sound mind and without a history of violent criminal behavior before giving a gun sale the green light. I am all for making sure someone has proven basic handgun proficiency before he/she is legally allowed to carry one around for self-defense. I am NOT in favor of punishing responsible gun owners because of the actions of a violent lunatic.

m14brony awlxaĺan

@awl Simply taking a look at existing legislation on firearms proves firearm ownership is a responsibility and not purely a "God-given" right. Convicted felons are not given a "God-given" right; they are legally prohibited from owning firearms. The same with those with a history of domestic violence or being mentally defective. In Minnesota, you can't get a concealed carry permit unless you can prove basic marksmanship with a handgun.

m14brony awlxaĺan

@awl This is a classic straw man fallacy.

m14brony Cloud Kicker

@critialcloudkicker In the US, the most vocal opponents of stringent gun control are often conservatives, and the most vocal proponents of more stringent gun control are often liberal. Women, LGBT, and Hispanics are gaining political clout due to demographic changes, and they often lean Democratic due to being repulsed by things like a call for a Berlin Wall at the US-Mexico border. If the Democrats can successfully use "Politics 101" to get these people to associate gun ownership with the things some Republicans are saying, gun owners like myself are in a lot of trouble in the long run (a permanent ban on "assault weapons" and "high capacity" magazines, "may issue" concealed carry laws, etc.).

m14brony LCpl Azure Blaze

@azureblaze Part of the problem is that gun ownership is often seen as a "partisan" issue. Hispanics, LGBT, women, etc. are put off by what some Republican politicians say, and there are liberal politicians with anti-gun views who prey on their emotions by trying to link gun ownership with such things.

m14brony Scribus

@scribus I haven't dissected the methodology thoroughly, but as I stated an another forum in the past, a CDC study estimates there are between 500,000 and 3 million defensive uses of firearms a year: http://www.everypony.com/threads/general-chat-thread-3-this-thread-transcends-titles.7131/page-2225

m14brony Cerulean Spark

@ceruleanspark There's a world of difference between countering with facts after being placed on the defensive by anti-gun types and blindly pursuing an agenda regardless of what the facts say.

m14brony LCpl Azure Blaze

@azureblaze Highlighting the instances of an armed civilian stopping a shooter would fatally undermine their anti-gun agenda.

m14brony Someone Probably

@razzleberry I have seen such insincere and opportunistic gestures toward the victims as well. And predictably, politicians are already using the victims as pawns for their agendas (Trump is using the shooting to push his anti-Muslim agenda, and Clinton is using it to push her civilian disarmament agenda).

m14brony Rarity

@rarity I would like to play such an Elder Scrolls game and defend Black Marsh from butt-licking Khajiit.

m14brony Scribus

@scribus Eeyup. :)

m14brony MetalTao

@metaltao Goodnight.

m14brony MetalTao

@metaltao I am sure that some right-wing ideologue managed to distort that into "mass sexual assaults."

m14brony MetalTao

@metaltao There's no reliable evidence that unisex bathrooms have caused any of the widespread problems opponents of them claim they would.

m14brony Zenneth

@zennx I just use a gun instead. :)

m14brony MetalTao

@metaltao I finished my schoolwork around a year ago, but I am toying with the idea of going for another two years. :P

m14brony RDN's Lucifer

@nerthos Drumpf has his fair share of violent supporters. Furthermore, at this point, there isn't any fundamental difference between those most likely to win their respective nominations. The Titanic has already hit the iceberg, and the main difference is that Captain Clinton would blame the ship's sinking on firearms, while Captain Drumpf would blame in on Mexicans and Muslims.

colfax Matt

@mrmattimation Bear in mind the NJ has some of the most stupidly draconian gun laws in the US, http://pny.lv/0egle

m14brony Harmony Elements

@pastelcolors Same here.