Notices by Crusader 8 (princelypublictimeline), page 40
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@mastertdi when are you going to be a pony
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@mrmattimation Biden is the REAL superhero
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@oracle I know, and it makes me so frsutrated that your carefully-worded claim cannot be reasonably refuted without me appearing ignorant! *feigns anger*
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@oracle confound you and your word "almost", as it utterly ruins any chance I have to refute your claim by citing examples! You will rue the day you executed clever phrasing! *fills out butthurt report form*
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@pony so if I understand correctly, you're setting terms for the continued discussion that I agree to any and all meanings of words you wish to change, and that my adherence to the standard of conventional language will not be given any respect in this regard? It is unfair that you do not wish to continue the discussion because your personal interpretations of words aren't given the same credence as culturally-accepted meanings? You expect me, without any quid-pro-quo or exchange, to reconstruct my entire platform to fit how you alone, out of millions of people, use specific words? (Or am I given an arbitrary number of words to redefine, in order to keep the discussion fair?) Mind you, a discussion that defaults does not prove or refute either position's claims
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I need to watch filli vanilli again
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@pony I have an "aversion" to religion the same way you might have an aversion to being called a "murderer" - as far as I know it isn't true so no one has any business calling you a murderer or saying my lack of beliefs is a belief. Don't accuse me or anyone else of being close-minded until you yourself start acknowledging even a single word I say, instead of deflecting it or dismissing it altogether. I have been very patient, but you are constantly arguing against a position I do not have - this is called "strawman" argument. The idea is, if you can get away with calling my lack of belief a belief, you can lump me into your anecdotal, unsupported viewpoints on belief. I made a direct statement that our difference in position is that I am skeptical, where you have made yourself plain in meaning that your beliefs validate your comfort or experiences. You then try to say everyone does with belief that you do, which is obviously not true.
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@pony 1. Look up "religion." 2. Look up "dogma." Do not call someone, or a group of people, something that they're not. Making up stuff, for example by saying my lack of religion is religion, will not give you the common ground you want. Speaking from an uninformed position will never give you common ground. You want common ground? Become a skeptic. Or just be skeptical for once. Question the validity of claims. Here's an easy one: if everyone claims their religion is right, doesn't it seem odd that a reported 90-some percent of religious people have the same belief system as their parents? Isn't that strange? You don't see that kind of indoctrination in the world of finding natural explanations for the world around us. Once you start asking questions, and abandon the comfort of complacent belief, you'll find common ground.
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@pony Framing a lack of beliefs as a rigid dogma demands a level of hyperbole that becomes quite obvious once the claim is made.
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@pony would you consider *not* playing sports, a sport? Or *no* collecting stamps, a hobby? See what I'm getting at here? Having no religion, is not a religion. Many people have trie to frame atheism as a religion to make it easier to criticize or attack, but it requires a perversion of several definitions in order to do so. (Like the meaning of religion)
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@hoit I do have to ask though, what was his argument? Because your previous phrasing conceerning this suggested that my position was uninformed, though you never directly addressed what this implied fallacy was
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@hoit l appreciate our talk and it seems I need to research george Orwell, lol
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@hoit the issue of religion's contribution to civil inequalities and political tensions, as well as its other positive contributions, is too exhaustive to maintain a focused discussion or even to remain brief, as it requires both sides to be very informed both currently and historically. I do caution you to tread lightly with your lackadaisacal attitude towards the subject, as there is a century's worth of testimonies and evidence that indicate NOMA policies and their equivalents are more harmful to society than beneficial.
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@hoit I enjoy your forthrightness, however I could argue that religion can be dangerous since beliefs inform actions. Also, religion is often turned into a political agenda. So, I'm curious to discover how many more deaths and wars it'll take before we realize a general clinging to superstitions is primarily responsible for our culture's immaturity
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@hoit I see now. No offense, but this is my vocabulary level in real life. I don't always "use big words" as the common phrase goes, but when I do, it's to convey that I'm not another kid who thinks the internet is a soapbox for them to blast idiotic ramblings. I care about what I say, and I care what words mean when people use them. It's not my fault if other people don't care, or are put off bywords with more letters in them.
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@hoit don't speak on my behalf. I'm willing to have an intelligent conversation with anyone about their religious beliefs, assuming that person is capable of defending their beliefs in an intelligent manner. Too often people get butthurt over plain and simple things like evidence, or they completely ignore the other person and just assume that their religious claim is impervious to intellectual scrutiny
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@hoit not sure how I'm being pretentious. I just said I wasn't sure who's trying to twist definitions but someone could be, and that I will put forth a reminder when I notice someone could potentially be arguing by twisting words' meanings. Because doing that is a form of intellectual dishonesty.
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@pony funny thing about evidence... There's only one meaning for it. It's not a homonym or anything, so it's fallacious to support a claim and/or counter a rebuttal by contorting scientific definitions. I'm just putting this out there, not sure who's saying what really but as soon as I see a word's definition in potential danger I jump in and preserve the intellectual integrity of the discussion.
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Fine! You know what? I'm going somewhere I feel appreciated! It just so happens to be bed! So what!
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XXXX days until Rainbow Rocks! The unofficial countdown
Monday, 17-Feb-14 13:13:52 UTC from web -
@ceruleanspark I want in because I wanna prove I'm a good singer
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@broniebrown Read the Yearling - his pet is a deer
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Happy morning, everyone
Monday, 17-Feb-14 11:49:26 UTC from web -
@thelastgherkin hip!
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can't wait until tomorrow to talk about the new episode openly!!!
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@toksyuryel oi
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@fortecadenza you youngster, you
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@fortecadenza wait, how old are you
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