Replies to zeldatra, page 32
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@mrmattimation I was not saying that Trump was in a thing you made. Not at all.
I was saying that I can make a pretty damn well estimate as to what you'll like or what you will not like.
Hence why, and I will quote myself : "I dare to bet on a day of soberness that where I set the bar for what is and is not funny might as well be on a different pane of existence compared to where you put the bar. That is if we were to estimate the distance between the 2 proverbial bars." -
@mrmattimation Nope, I have no idea what an intentionally topical joke is, considdering I do not know the topic RN.
However I was not talking about your "Couch Gag" things. I was talking about, oh Idunno, Swole Foods, and the Twin Souls, and pretty much all the conversations we, well, some of them did not end well. Still, you slowly but surely get to feel what sort of person you are dealing with.
As such I feel like I kinda know what kinda humor you would like, and the kind you would not like. As such a conversation of what is 'acceptable humor' between the two of us would be quite hard, if not completely abstract.
So who is to say what is and is not deserving of a good old round of Twitter/SocialMedia hatredstorm ? The mob ?
And if it is the mob, do you think that the mob will change when Trump has vacated the White House ? I could make a terrible pun regarding those who shall not be erased RN. But that could be in poor taste, and we both know they will still be around after Trump -
@mrmattimation That's not really true, all of the Bush jokes I remember were mostly about him being slow or dumb, so like 95%+ of that repertoire was already written before he appeared on a ballot, and 95%+ of the near same jokes after he left office simply went to Mitch McConnel.
I do not know any Mitch McConnel jokes of before or during the Bush era though. Probably because he was still a whip back then. -
@mrmattimation He really wasn't. Before Obama's first term he was in Africa. Before Obama's second term he was somewhat active in the stand up community in the States. Aparently that is where Jon Steward actually first met him and propped him up to take over his show.
Sadly, if you look at Trevor's very first stand up routine you can still see all of the elements that make him such a bad comedian today. Most mentionworthy, always laughing at his own jokes before the audience starts to. -
@mrmattimation Yes, you are right, the point was offensive jokes.
Then again, I read your comic thing. I dare to bet on a day of soberness that where I set the bar for what is and is not funny might as well be on a different pane of existence compared to where you put the bar. That is if we were to estimate the distance between the 2 proverbial bars.
For instance, example in 10 seconds : http://rainbowdash.net/url/875220
Then again he also did this so he is pretty much also my hero : http://rainbowdash.net/url/875221
So, ehmm, yeah, for comedy to return to the way it used to be to a time before offensive jokes were not immediatly followed by an unironic round of legitimate twitter hatred. My guess is to go ask Louis CK and David Chapelle.
I do not quite think the world is ready to separate the art from the artist again anyway.
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@mrmattimation Mine's a pretty cookie-cutter Republican. Party line on all major issues.
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@mrmattimation Do I think you are able to get the Trump out of the White House ? yes. There are ways and means to get that done.
But do I think you can get the Trump out of the Comedians ? I have NO idea how you can get that done, especially for those who have done nothing but make non-stop Trump jokes for the past 4+ years.
Tell you what though, after such a long amount of time there is NO doubt on my mind that these people legitimately hate Trump. The bigger the hateboner the bigger the chance that they will never be funny again. Steven Colbert, Trevor Noah, Jimmy Fallon, Jimmy Kimmel & Seth Meyers would be my top list of such 'far gone' 'comedians' that should Trump be removed will in all likelyhood never fully recover. Be it through weakness or through fan-expectations and them caving to 'give the fans what they want'. -
@mrmattimation Well Doc Sweetleaf will never see monetization then.
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@mrmattimation Does "Jerk it in a lake, I h8 ur feels" count?
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@mrmattimation I have to imagine this one is gonna stay in the news for a while so I think this is the final-final one
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@mrmattimation Never get online before breakfast. That said, I am overdue for a burrito....
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@mrmattimation I have similar thoughts, except it's a compound in Nevada or New Mexico.
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@mrmattimation Hold on a minute. Do you believe that I said that you must think that HRC should have never conceded. But where I actually said that HRC did not have her concession speech ready when Trump won because all the polls told her that her win was pretty much a done deal and actual voting would actually just be a formality at that point.
Because if that is the sore spot then I find it extremely hilarious that you think I need to learn how to read. -
@mrmattimation Yes it is. I am left thinking about http://rainbowdash.net/url/875214
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@mrmattimation Alright, I will bite. I insisted you said what things ?
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@mrmattimation Could you prove that I said Trump to be an illegitimate president ? Could you prove that I ever said that Clinton should never have conceded ? Feel free to link me those exact words right now, but I know they do not exist unless if you add a couple of words to the things I did say.
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@mrmattimation Stop putting words in the mouth of the baby, the baby never said that.
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@mrmattimation When you are having a conversation in the open like this, calling your perceived opponent a name or derogatory like that is probably going to end up great for the total tally for those at home keeping score.
Not that I care all that much about being called anything but surely even you have to admit that it does not look good. Heck, any highschooler that has even heard of a debate team knows this. Not that I would know, according to you it would take at least 10 years before I probably even get close to a highschool. -
@mrmattimation Believe me, one's boss and one's enemy can easily be the same.
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@mrmattimation Never interrupt your enemy while they're making a mistake.
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@mrmattimation Wait, so we agree on something ?
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@mrmattimation Yes and there are still 10 people running for democratic presidential candidate, and last time I checked the Republicans are going to run with the current president. Meaning there is one flavour of red and various flavours of blue. Of course one side is going to be a lot more outspoken about thier choice. Same thing happened in, lets see, 2012, 2004, 1996, 1984, for some reason in 1980 that was not a 2nd term runnin prez, 1972, and 1956.
As for those two maps, Well we already know the bias of "270 to win" -
@mrmattimation " that capturing 51% in a poll is just that - a 51% chance that you win."
Oh for the love of. NO ! That is not what a poll is supposed to represent. You do normally take margins of error into account and all that jazz for a non political poll ( which is set to about 5% ). However for a political poll when the levels of polarisation are extremely high ( and you litterally have people talking openly about grabbing the opportunity to making sure that all your employees vote HRC, for voting Trump will have consequences ) polls become less and less accurate since people do not bother to out their political leanings untill the little drape/curtains close behind them in the voting booth.
Saying otherwise makes a mockery out of the art of poll-making from 1952-2012, probably earlier but I did not look into that.
I mean, after all, if RHC was as smart as you then she would have made a concession-speech. Instead she threatened to do what she said Trump would do. Call 'FOUL'. -
@mrmattimation You still believe in polls ? More importantly you think 8.3 % of Bernie Bro's did not vote ? Yeah I call bull on that. Unless if you want to proclaim that you can expect 30% margin of error out of every and all polls coming out of "the establishment" on a good day ( not even gonna touch the bad days )
But hey, I will just leave you with this http://rainbowdash.net/url/875210
and this
http://rainbowdash.net/url/875211
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@mrmattimation Wait, you mean like the 1976 election between Jimmy Carter and Gerald Ford ? You KNOW why Texas was blue, right ?
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@mrmattimation the "non sequitur"-level seems high I am not sure whether to call it a day or to point out that I have NO idea how actual vote totals (from when? 2016? from whom? MSM ?) can be used to establish anything on the level as big as a whole state.
But hey, if you are willing to still believe that so called 'professionals' are better at predicting at what whole states will probably end up voting when there is also Matt Groening, I am not gonna stop you.
As for that Trump did worse than Romney and McCain in some area's. Yeah I am willing to believe that, there are things like home states, there are things like actively or passively pandering to special/specific intrest groups.
Lets not forget the Bernie Bro's ( name ? ) which voted for trump in 2016.
Oh, or the people from the Rust Belt who vowed to vote democrat in the local elections but Trump for 2020 http://rainbowdash.net/url/875206
Because aparently that's a thing -
@mrmattimation I'm torn between "I can't wait to watch the traitors dangle" and "I think so dismissively of them all I wouldn't even watch the festivities."
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@mrmattimation Ah, welcome to the wonderfull world of politics where everything is a gamble and nothing makes you happy. If you wanna hear my hot take on your Biden-problem. The guy is 5 years older than Hillary Rodham Clinton and as such I doubt he knows a lot about the modern way of media. So here is what you wait for : If he goes to the swing states and/or potential swing states in the south and he puts on a fake southern accent. Do not vote for the guy, and laugh at him instead. Else, good luck
I mean just 1 small google away are things like... Oh my I was not expecting to find something so recent as 2019 http://rainbowdash.net/url/875204 or http://rainbowdash.net/url/875205
Meanwhile I can not help but to be curious as to how far the "he might get votes that would otherwise go to Democrats" is said in the "Republican Nominee War Room" (name ?) -
@mrmattimation No you didn't. You just said "Oh hey something that happened in 2009 is now again happening in 2019, that involves using Nanci Peloci as a skapegoat of one form or another" Just what am I supposed to do with that ? What is ANYONE supposed to do with that ?
Also are we just going to ignore 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014... Heck I am sure that I can find SOMETHING to complete the 6 in a row in the very least. I mean, I just need to find something regarding her being blamed for something by someone else right ? Question now is who is saying anything. Would you believe everything that John Boehner or Kevin McCarthy say ? Heck, lets disqualify those people from the 'game'. Now it is suddenly a lot harder to even get 4 in a row. -
@mrmattimation I am afraid of asking what happened in 2009, seeing that I probably know the answer.
